Data request: looking for image of green Mauser box

Vlim · 08-17-2008, 09:24 AM

Hi,

The Mauser Parabellum of the 1970s was shipped in several types of boxes. Although all boxes had the same layout (cardboard, white lid with Mauser logo) several small differences existed.

The guns meant for Interarms had the Interarms name and address on the box and the Parabellum logo in a gothic style, while those for the other markets had the Mauser logo, a Parabellum lettering in a modern style and the Mauser address.

Now, we know that Mauser changed it's name in the late 1970s following a takeover by the Diehl group. The name 'Mauser-Werke AG' changed to 'Mauser-Werke Oberndorf GmbH'. The name change is also visible in the manuals and on the gun's grip straps.

My request is: please check your cardboard Mauser Parabellum boxes and report:
-The serial number (4 digits on the box side) (optional, I understand if you don't want to disclose it).
-Whether the gun is an interarms version
-Color of the box base and lid text (blue or green)
-Name and address on the box (Interarms / Mauser-werke AG / Mauser-werke Oberndorf GmbH).
-The addres on the back of the manual, if present (or 'none' if not present).

Lugerdoc · 08-17-2008, 03:29 PM

GvV, Have one spare Interarms blue & white box to report for 6' .30 Cal. #1339 in worn condition $10. Also have serval VG to exc Green & White boxes (recieved years ago direct from Mauser containing parts) with neither of the marking that you list (only "Original/Mauser logo/Parabellum" on top & right side of lid) @$25 each + S&H. None of these have inner liner or accessories. [email protected]

Vlim · 08-17-2008, 05:41 PM

Hi Tom,

Thanks, can you give me a description of the text on the lid of the green boxes?

Edward Tinker · 08-17-2008, 05:59 PM

here is my info

-The serial number (4 digits on the box side) (optional, I understand if you don't want disclose it). 13344
-Whether the gun is an interarms version YES
-Color of the box base and lid text (blue or green) BLUE
-Name and address on the box (Interarms / Mauser-werke AG / Mauser-werke Oberndorf GmbH). Interarms for Mauser
-The addres on the back of the manual, if present (or 'none' if not present).
Mauser-Jagdwaffen GMBH D7238 Oberdorf/Neckar

Ed

Steve Richards · 08-18-2008, 02:42 AM

GvV
Mine is:
Serial number 1336
Interarms: Yes
Color: Blue
Name: Mauser-Werke AG
Manual: None
Target Date: 18 Dez 1970
Target Address: 7238 Oberndorf am Neckar

I hope that this helps.

Steve

Vlim · 08-18-2008, 06:41 AM

Guys, thanks.

@Steve: That's a pretty early one! If I understand it correctly, it is an Interarms marked gun in a Mauser-labeled, Mauser-address box?

zinfull · 08-18-2008, 02:08 PM

I have 4 for your info.

RG0877 - Interarms Version - Blue Box addressed Interarms - Green Medallion
Mauser-Jagdwaffen GMBH D7238 Oberdorf/Neckar
RG0878 - Interarms Version - Blue Box addressed Interarms - Green Medallion
Mauser-Jagdwaffen GMBH D7238 Oberdorf/Neckar
5264 - Interarms Version - Blue Box addressed Interarms - Blue Medallion
Mauser-Jagdwaffen GMBH D7238 Oberdorf/Neckar
8453 - Interarms Version - Blue Box addressed Interarms - Blue Medallion
Mauser-Jagdwaffen GMBH D7238 Oberdorf/Neckar

Jerry

Vlim · 08-18-2008, 02:53 PM

Jerry,

Thanks. The top 2 are from a series of approx. 1000 Renato Gamba guns.

pitsword · 08-18-2008, 04:30 PM

Hello G vV,

My first post here, I cannot thank everyone enough for the wealth of information shared here.

My 29/70 Interarms, Serial # 4292, 4", 9mm
Blue box, Blue medallion
Original 3 shot target done by "Broghammer", Mauser-Werke 7238 Oberndorf am Neckar
Instruction manual address: mauser-jagdwaffen GMBH, D7238 Oberndorf/Neckar
Box cover: Interarms, Exclusive International Representatives for Mauser
London, Alexandria Va USA, Monte Carlo

Best Regards,
Pitsword

Vlim · 08-18-2008, 05:06 PM

Thanks, a very helpful first post, and welcome to the forum!

Steve Richards · 08-22-2008, 02:42 AM

GvV,

Mine is indeed an Interarms pistol with FBM stamped on the left front of the frame ahead of the side plate. It is a 6" .30cal.

Steve

Hugh · 08-22-2008, 11:47 AM

Box only, no gun or booklet:

Serial # 72729, 6", 9mm
Blue box
Original 3 shot target, Mauser-Werke 7238 Oberndorf am Neckar
Box cover: Interarms, Exclusive International Representatives for Mauser
London, Alexandria Va USA, Monte Carlo

I have a gun in a leather case;

Serial #2185, 6", 30 cal
Marked Interarms, Alexandria, Virginia
Original 3 shot target, Mauser-Werke 7238 Oberndorf am Neckar
Blue instruction manual address: mauser-jagdwaffen GMBH, D7238 Oberndorf/Neckar
Warranty card with Interarms address
Blue plastic tag

Case includes gun, brass/steel cleaning rod/oiler, loading tool, & three extra magazines.

Vlim · 08-25-2008, 02:19 PM

Hugh, Steve,

Thanks for the (additional) info. As expected, it's a confusing result

There seems to be no obvious pattern (yet) when it comes to packaging types.

08-22-2008, 11:47 AM	#12
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Box only, no gun or booklet: Serial # 72729, 6", 9mm Blue box Original 3 shot target, Mauser-Werke 7238 Oberndorf am Neckar Box cover: Interarms, Exclusive International Representatives for Mauser London, Alexandria Va USA, Monte Carlo I have a gun in a leather case; Serial #2185, 6", 30 cal Marked Interarms, Alexandria, Virginia Original 3 shot target, Mauser-Werke 7238 Oberndorf am Neckar Blue instruction manual address: mauser-jagdwaffen GMBH, D7238 Oberndorf/Neckar Warranty card with Interarms address Blue plastic tag Case includes gun, brass/steel cleaning rod/oiler, loading tool, & three extra magazines. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

08-17-2008, 09:24 AM	#1
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Data request: looking for image of green Mauser box Hi, The Mauser Parabellum of the 1970s was shipped in several types of boxes. Although all boxes had the same layout (cardboard, white lid with Mauser logo) several small differences existed. The guns meant for Interarms had the Interarms name and address on the box and the Parabellum logo in a gothic style, while those for the other markets had the Mauser logo, a Parabellum lettering in a modern style and the Mauser address. Now, we know that Mauser changed it's name in the late 1970s following a takeover by the Diehl group. The name 'Mauser-Werke AG' changed to 'Mauser-Werke Oberndorf GmbH'. The name change is also visible in the manuals and on the gun's grip straps. My request is: please check your cardboard Mauser Parabellum boxes and report: -The serial number (4 digits on the box side) (optional, I understand if you don't want to disclose it). -Whether the gun is an interarms version -Color of the box base and lid text (blue or green) -Name and address on the box (Interarms / Mauser-werke AG / Mauser-werke Oberndorf GmbH). -The addres on the back of the manual, if present (or 'none' if not present).

08-17-2008, 03:29 PM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	GvV, Have one spare Interarms blue & white box to report for 6' .30 Cal. #1339 in worn condition $10. Also have serval VG to exc Green & White boxes (recieved years ago direct from Mauser containing parts) with neither of the marking that you list (only "Original/Mauser logo/Parabellum" on top & right side of lid) @$25 each + S&H. None of these have inner liner or accessories. [email protected] __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

08-17-2008, 05:41 PM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi Tom, Thanks, can you give me a description of the text on the lid of the green boxes?

08-17-2008, 05:59 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	here is my info -The serial number (4 digits on the box side) (optional, I understand if you don't want disclose it). 13344 -Whether the gun is an interarms version YES -Color of the box base and lid text (blue or green) BLUE -Name and address on the box (Interarms / Mauser-werke AG / Mauser-werke Oberndorf GmbH). Interarms for Mauser -The addres on the back of the manual, if present (or 'none' if not present). Mauser-Jagdwaffen GMBH D7238 Oberdorf/Neckar Ed

08-18-2008, 02:42 AM	#5
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	GvV Mine is: Serial number 1336 Interarms: Yes Color: Blue Name: Mauser-Werke AG Manual: None Target Date: 18 Dez 1970 Target Address: 7238 Oberndorf am Neckar I hope that this helps. Steve

08-18-2008, 06:41 AM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Guys, thanks. @Steve: That's a pretty early one! If I understand it correctly, it is an Interarms marked gun in a Mauser-labeled, Mauser-address box?

08-18-2008, 02:08 PM	#7
zinfull Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sonoma County CA Posts: 243 Thanks: 5 Thanked 33 Times in 16 Posts	I have 4 for your info. RG0877 - Interarms Version - Blue Box addressed Interarms - Green Medallion Mauser-Jagdwaffen GMBH D7238 Oberdorf/Neckar RG0878 - Interarms Version - Blue Box addressed Interarms - Green Medallion Mauser-Jagdwaffen GMBH D7238 Oberdorf/Neckar 5264 - Interarms Version - Blue Box addressed Interarms - Blue Medallion Mauser-Jagdwaffen GMBH D7238 Oberdorf/Neckar 8453 - Interarms Version - Blue Box addressed Interarms - Blue Medallion Mauser-Jagdwaffen GMBH D7238 Oberdorf/Neckar Jerry

08-18-2008, 02:53 PM	#8
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Jerry, Thanks. The top 2 are from a series of approx. 1000 Renato Gamba guns.

08-18-2008, 04:30 PM	#9
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 459 Thanks: 3,964 Thanked 103 Times in 83 Posts	Hello G vV, My first post here, I cannot thank everyone enough for the wealth of information shared here. My 29/70 Interarms, Serial # 4292, 4", 9mm Blue box, Blue medallion Original 3 shot target done by "Broghammer", Mauser-Werke 7238 Oberndorf am Neckar Instruction manual address: mauser-jagdwaffen GMBH, D7238 Oberndorf/Neckar Box cover: Interarms, Exclusive International Representatives for Mauser London, Alexandria Va USA, Monte Carlo Best Regards, Pitsword

08-18-2008, 05:06 PM	#10
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Thanks, a very helpful first post, and welcome to the forum!

08-22-2008, 02:42 AM	#11
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	GvV, Mine is indeed an Interarms pistol with FBM stamped on the left front of the frame ahead of the side plate. It is a 6" .30cal. Steve

08-25-2008, 02:19 PM	#13
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hugh, Steve, Thanks for the (additional) info. As expected, it's a confusing result There seems to be no obvious pattern (yet) when it comes to packaging types.