HELP ME!! 1918 Luger

bulletproof-791 · 03-27-2012, 09:53 PM

1st of thanks for looking and i am a VIRGIN to the luger.... got this gun at a gun auction today for $500.00

not sure if i did good or not i took a few photos and they did not turn out perfect, i will give all info on gun.........here we go

1 ..........the gun has been REBLUED
2...........grips have been replaced

PLEASE I NEED HELP.....

CORRECTION ON THE NUMBERS......160

the way i have luck is i wasted my $$$$

3...........the word GESICHERT, is where the safety is ?

date ontop of frame 1918

on top a CROWN over the word ERFURT & the #78 ?

some kind of marks

left side of gun

right side of gun

under the BBL is 160

lugersrkewl · 03-27-2012, 10:03 PM

if it shoots you did fine. especially since its 9 mm. it looks like a 1918 military model. not the correct grips though they look custom. alot more could be ascertained by the marks on the right of the slide as far as history. But you have a shooter non collector luger and you got it pretty cheap. shooters should go between 400-600 but I cant find any. gesichert is safe in German

TheRomanhistorian · 03-27-2012, 10:11 PM

Hi Scott, you did very well for $500 (even if it is reblued and has incorrect grips). If you provide all the serial numbers/numbers on parts that would be more useful information (any unit marks?). I think you did well, hope you enjoy it for some time to come and welcome aboard!

alanint · 03-27-2012, 10:17 PM

You have a reblued, Erfurt, mismatched shooter with replacement grips and a modern, Mauser takedown lever. Your grips have what is perhaps the largest "Million Dollar Chip" I have ever seen, but you are right smack in the middle of fair on the price.

bulletproof-791 · 03-27-2012, 10:25 PM

"Million Dollar Chip" ??? whats that ???

8,82 underneath the barrel ????

all 3 of the marks have what seems like little crowns above them

this is the last of the 4 marks from right to left ...i can make that 1 out

TheRomanhistorian · 03-27-2012, 10:38 PM

If you look under the safety, there's that big gap where there should actually be more grip. Often, when people removed the grip they weren't careful and that could result in a chunk of the grip being chipped off when removed.

bulletproof-791 · 03-27-2012, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRomanhistorian

If you look under the safety, there's that big gap where there should actually be more grip. Often, when people removed the grip they weren't careful and that could result in a chunk of the grip being chipped off when removed.

I see what you meen........do you know where i can get a set of grips that would be more to factory ??

TheRomanhistorian · 03-27-2012, 11:50 PM

There are several places that sell the grips but I believe Lugerdoc or Hugh Clark (both are chaps here on the forum) would be the best to approach about those if you want to stick with people from the forum, if memory serves. I don't know if you necessarily need to replace your grips if you like them though and they don't look half bad.

lugersrkewl · 03-28-2012, 12:38 AM

1. crown over erfurt
the manufactures emblem of the arsenal of prussian state that purchased two private factorys and started producing lugers around 1910.
the number 78 is supposed to be last two digits of serial that should be found on almost every part of gun along with inspector proofs on every piece as erfurt was very diligent with quality control.
2. the three marks on the right are a german military received proof. should be a crown over w ,p, and b with a crowned eagle last.
3. the 8.85 is the measure of the land of the barrel and designates it as 9mm.

the gun will never be a collector because of its state. It is a cool piece of history that you can have fun with and shoot at a good price. My two cents keep the grips and buy some bullets.

03-27-2012, 09:53 PM	#1
bulletproof-791 New User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	HELP ME!! 1918 Luger 1st of thanks for looking and i am a VIRGIN to the luger.... got this gun at a gun auction today for $500.00 not sure if i did good or not i took a few photos and they did not turn out perfect, i will give all info on gun.........here we go 1 ..........the gun has been REBLUED 2...........grips have been replaced PLEASE I NEED HELP..... CORRECTION ON THE NUMBERS......160 the way i have luck is i wasted my $$$$ 3...........the word GESICHERT, is where the safety is ? date ontop of frame 1918 on top a CROWN over the word ERFURT & the #78 ? some kind of marks left side of gun right side of gun under the BBL is 160 Last edited by bulletproof-791; 03-27-2012 at 11:33 PM.

03-27-2012, 10:11 PM	#3
TheRomanhistorian User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 301 Thanks: 170 Thanked 88 Times in 64 Posts	Hi Scott, you did very well for $500 (even if it is reblued and has incorrect grips). If you provide all the serial numbers/numbers on parts that would be more useful information (any unit marks?). I think you did well, hope you enjoy it for some time to come and welcome aboard! __________________ Michael Nos morituri te salutant - Supposed saying of the gladiators to the emperor ('We, who are about to die, salute you.') 'We are the lantern bearers, my friend; for us to keep something burning, to carry what light we can forward into the darkness and the wind' - From Rosemary Sutcliff's The Lantern Bearers

03-27-2012, 10:17 PM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	You have a reblued, Erfurt, mismatched shooter with replacement grips and a modern, Mauser takedown lever. Your grips have what is perhaps the largest "Million Dollar Chip" I have ever seen, but you are right smack in the middle of fair on the price. Last edited by alanint; 03-27-2012 at 11:16 PM.

03-27-2012, 10:25 PM	#5
bulletproof-791 New User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	"Million Dollar Chip" ??? whats that ??? 8,82 underneath the barrel ???? all 3 of the marks have what seems like little crowns above them this is the last of the 4 marks from right to left ...i can make that 1 out Last edited by bulletproof-791; 03-27-2012 at 11:22 PM.

03-27-2012, 10:38 PM	#6
TheRomanhistorian User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 301 Thanks: 170 Thanked 88 Times in 64 Posts	If you look under the safety, there's that big gap where there should actually be more grip. Often, when people removed the grip they weren't careful and that could result in a chunk of the grip being chipped off when removed. __________________ Michael Nos morituri te salutant - Supposed saying of the gladiators to the emperor ('We, who are about to die, salute you.') 'We are the lantern bearers, my friend; for us to keep something burning, to carry what light we can forward into the darkness and the wind' - From Rosemary Sutcliff's The Lantern Bearers

03-27-2012, 10:03 PM	#2
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	if it shoots you did fine. especially since its 9 mm. it looks like a 1918 military model. not the correct grips though they look custom. alot more could be ascertained by the marks on the right of the slide as far as history. But you have a shooter non collector luger and you got it pretty cheap. shooters should go between 400-600 but I cant find any. gesichert is safe in German

03-27-2012, 11:50 PM	#8
TheRomanhistorian User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 301 Thanks: 170 Thanked 88 Times in 64 Posts	There are several places that sell the grips but I believe Lugerdoc or Hugh Clark (both are chaps here on the forum) would be the best to approach about those if you want to stick with people from the forum, if memory serves. I don't know if you necessarily need to replace your grips if you like them though and they don't look half bad. __________________ Michael Nos morituri te salutant - Supposed saying of the gladiators to the emperor ('We, who are about to die, salute you.') 'We are the lantern bearers, my friend; for us to keep something burning, to carry what light we can forward into the darkness and the wind' - From Rosemary Sutcliff's The Lantern Bearers

03-28-2012, 12:38 AM	#9
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	1. crown over erfurt the manufactures emblem of the arsenal of prussian state that purchased two private factorys and started producing lugers around 1910. the number 78 is supposed to be last two digits of serial that should be found on almost every part of gun along with inspector proofs on every piece as erfurt was very diligent with quality control. 2. the three marks on the right are a german military received proof. should be a crown over w ,p, and b with a crowned eagle last. 3. the 8.85 is the measure of the land of the barrel and designates it as 9mm. the gun will never be a collector because of its state. It is a cool piece of history that you can have fun with and shoot at a good price. My two cents keep the grips and buy some bullets.