Question Regarding Imperial Rod

cirelaw · 06-24-2013, 02:23 PM

With oiler! How does one use the oiler without making a mess?

alanint · 06-24-2013, 02:42 PM

The "dipstick" was meant to be used as a crude brush. Dip it in the oil well and then apply drops to all the typical areas needing lubricant on the pistol.

This is an era where lubrication and cleaning were viewed seperately.

lugerholsterrepair · 06-24-2013, 03:59 PM

From looking into many of these over the years ..they are always filled with grease.

cirelaw · 06-24-2013, 05:20 PM

Probobly needs refills often!!!! ~~~Eric

lugerholsterrepair · 06-24-2013, 05:43 PM

Eric, I wouldn't think so..I grease all of my frame rails & toggle pin. I would think oil would suffice but I like a light white lithium grease.
Doug could very well be right..they might have had oil..I just can't say except for my observations. IMO a well lubricated Luger needs a little of both!

LU1900 · 06-24-2013, 05:49 PM

I think it's not one original 1900 rod .
And like from Swiss guns , grease is more use than oil to lubificate

cirelaw · 06-24-2013, 06:06 PM

Where can one find 'white lithium grease'??

lugerholsterrepair · 06-24-2013, 06:17 PM

At any hardware store..comes in a spray can, about $5 bucks.

CAP Black · 06-24-2013, 11:20 PM

The total unit's construction and way it appears to be of service indicates that it is a luber and not an oiler. Some difference in translation. Think about it. They had oil in little cans that were issued. One of those grease wells full of grease would last a man through many days of firing his weapon.
I prefer black lithium to white until I get too much some place and get it on me and other things. I think the black looks better on blued guns.
Jack

lugerholsterrepair · 06-24-2013, 11:32 PM

Jack.. I think the black looks better on blued guns. I don't put it where you can easily see it! Just on the inside slide rails. The rest of the pistol is pretty liberally oiled up with a can of 3 in 1 household oil. I drip about ten drops on a shaving brush and get it everywhere.

Ben M. · 06-25-2013, 12:40 PM

the pattern on the lid normally has dicing patterns in 2 directions that cross each other. looks like a repro item. no original.

Norme · 06-25-2013, 12:50 PM

I'm wondering whether it's a Portuguese rod with a replacement shaft?
Regards, Norm

sheepherder · 06-25-2013, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben M.

the pattern on the lid normally has dicing patterns in 2 directions that cross each other. looks like a repro item. no original.

"Knurling"...I just received a nice knurling tool for my German thread protectors, and a couple sets of rollers...getting only one direction cross hatch is pretty hard to do...

lugerholsterrepair · 06-25-2013, 12:56 PM

the pattern on the lid normally has dicing patterns in 2 directions that cross each other. looks like a repro item. no original.

Ben is correct..this is NOT an original rod IMO. You will also notice the brass rod is jointed. It is screwed into the stub projecting from the grease barrel.

I have mentioned this many times before but since it's come up..I will do so again. The Germans cannot have manufactured ANY rod with a screwed in shaft. Any shaft manufactured this way will unscrew itself and simply slide right out the end of the cleaning rod sleeve and be lost.

cirelaw · 06-25-2013, 01:48 PM

A nice close-up!

Neil Young · 06-25-2013, 02:00 PM

When you look at that close-up, it is apparent that the work is pretty crude. Even I can do better than that.

sheepherder · 06-25-2013, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Young

When you look at that close-up, it is apparent that the work is pretty crude. Even I can do better than that.

I think even Eric can do better than this...I lightened it to show the file marks, emery cloth scratches, gouges, uneven width of clamp...Sorry Eric...

I'm thinking now, from the crude look of the work, that the single knurl cut is from a misaligned knurling tool - only one roller cutting...(Well, displacing the metal actually)...I'm basing that on some of my own mistakes...But I learn, eventually...

By the time I'm 120, I'll have this work down pat...

cirelaw · 06-25-2013, 02:17 PM

A little different. They both look real to me!!

alanint · 06-25-2013, 02:21 PM

BTW, I used the word "oil" but I too agree that these were filled with grease.

lugerholsterrepair · 06-25-2013, 02:27 PM

When you look at that close-up, it is apparent that the work is pretty crude. Even I can do better than that.
Neil..I have the advantage of knowing what a master craftsman you are..I would guess it would be a tad difficult to accurately make one of these grease barrel rods?

06-24-2013, 02:23 PM	#1
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06-24-2013, 03:59 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	From looking into many of these over the years ..they are always filled with grease. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-24-2013, 05:43 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Eric, I wouldn't think so..I grease all of my frame rails & toggle pin. I would think oil would suffice but I like a light white lithium grease. Doug could very well be right..they might have had oil..I just can't say except for my observations. IMO a well lubricated Luger needs a little of both! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-24-2013, 05:49 PM	#6
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 42 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	I think it's not one original 1900 rod . And like from Swiss guns , grease is more use than oil to lubificate __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

06-24-2013, 06:17 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	At any hardware store..comes in a spray can, about $5 bucks. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-24-2013, 02:42 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The "dipstick" was meant to be used as a crude brush. Dip it in the oil well and then apply drops to all the typical areas needing lubricant on the pistol. This is an era where lubrication and cleaning were viewed seperately.

06-24-2013, 05:20 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Probobly needs refills often!!!! ~~~Eric

06-24-2013, 06:06 PM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Where can one find 'white lithium grease'??

06-24-2013, 11:20 PM	#9
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	The total unit's construction and way it appears to be of service indicates that it is a luber and not an oiler. Some difference in translation. Think about it. They had oil in little cans that were issued. One of those grease wells full of grease would last a man through many days of firing his weapon. I prefer black lithium to white until I get too much some place and get it on me and other things. I think the black looks better on blued guns. Jack

06-24-2013, 11:32 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Jack.. I think the black looks better on blued guns. I don't put it where you can easily see it! Just on the inside slide rails. The rest of the pistol is pretty liberally oiled up with a can of 3 in 1 household oil. I drip about ten drops on a shaving brush and get it everywhere. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-25-2013, 12:40 PM	#11
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	the pattern on the lid normally has dicing patterns in 2 directions that cross each other. looks like a repro item. no original.

06-25-2013, 12:50 PM	#12
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	I'm wondering whether it's a Portuguese rod with a replacement shaft? Regards, Norm

06-25-2013, 12:56 PM	#14
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	the pattern on the lid normally has dicing patterns in 2 directions that cross each other. looks like a repro item. no original. Ben is correct..this is NOT an original rod IMO. You will also notice the brass rod is jointed. It is screwed into the stub projecting from the grease barrel. I have mentioned this many times before but since it's come up..I will do so again. The Germans cannot have manufactured ANY rod with a screwed in shaft. Any shaft manufactured this way will unscrew itself and simply slide right out the end of the cleaning rod sleeve and be lost. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-25-2013, 01:48 PM	#15
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	For You Jerry!! A nice close-up! Attached Thumbnails

06-25-2013, 02:00 PM	#16
Neil Young Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scottsboro, Alabama Posts: 546 Thanks: 559 Thanked 442 Times in 168 Posts	When you look at that close-up, it is apparent that the work is pretty crude. Even I can do better than that. __________________ Neil The hurrier I go the behinder I get. Sometimes it takes me all day to get nothing done.

06-25-2013, 02:17 PM	#18
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	My other! A little different. They both look real to me!! Attached Thumbnails

06-25-2013, 02:21 PM	#19
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	BTW, I used the word "oil" but I too agree that these were filled with grease.

06-25-2013, 02:27 PM	#20
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	When you look at that close-up, it is apparent that the work is pretty crude. Even I can do better than that. Neil..I have the advantage of knowing what a master craftsman you are..I would guess it would be a tad difficult to accurately make one of these grease barrel rods? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."