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Steve · 03-20-2001, 07:55 PM

While we are on the subject of holsters, does anyone

know of an experimental "paint" finish that was applied.

I say experimental as I have only seen a couple others

with this brown finish. Is it something that was done originally by the Manufacturer or in the field, or what.

This one that is pictured is a 1936 Kurt Voegels.

Thanks,

Steve

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/1936hol.jpg

Milt Keller · 03-20-2001, 08:18 PM

I have a 1916 that has rather a thick, like varnish covering on it. On the flap, there are rather long "cracks" on just the surface of whatever this stuff is. This is the first one of those I've seen, and am curious to what this might be.

Milt

Johnny Peppers · 03-20-2001, 09:29 PM

Years ago there was a shoe preparation that came in a bottle with a big dauber for "painting" on a new finish to worn and scuffed shoes. The finish on your holster sure does look like the finish left by this preparation.

BILL · 03-20-2001, 10:18 PM

It does appear to be a holster that someone has 'Scuffkote'd

Seems to me that Scuffkote was a popular brand of, well..it wasn't really polish, but that was what it was used for in the late fifties and early sixties. You could turn a worn pair of black oxfords into a newly varnished pair of nice brown dress shoes..along with the laces.

Milt Keller · 03-20-2001, 11:16 PM

Johnny,

This is not a "shoe polish, dauber applied" This, I think is a professionally applied protective addition, and I might add, must have been "added" a number of years ago. It almost makes the holster impervious to time. It's hard as hell, and cannot be scratched without a great amount of pressure.

Thanks,

Milt Keller

Milt Keller · 03-20-2001, 11:26 PM

Bill,

This sounds more like it. However, given the age of the two holsters to which it is applied, it might be an earlier relative of the product you mention'd. I remember the product, but my holster is coated with a "clear coat" and not a product I feel is designed for footwear, ergo, the cracks! I think it is more a product that was designed to "protect" leather products, much the same as the patent'ing of leather. Probably the work of some "strack" enlisted German soldier, wanting to impress his duty officer!

Johnny Peppers · 03-21-2001, 12:11 AM

I remember the shoe preparation from the 50's and that has been a number of years ago whether I like to admit it or not. While I don't specifically remember a clear coating, the rack contained all the different shoe colors.

03-21-2001, 07:59 AM

Steve,

I have never heard of a finish like you describe on a Luger holster, but during the war, Walther PP and PPK holsters made from a presses paper type material had a "varnish" finish. Also, I think, some of the leather holsters had a "varnish" finish applied which gave them a very nice shiney finish. Most of these were for the Political Leaders holsters for dress wear. This is all I know on the subject.

Marvin

Milt Keller · 03-21-2001, 02:15 PM

Marvin........

Now, that makes sense to me! As I said earlier, It probably was for "dress". I know one thing, it's hard as hell. It looks like it's been there for many many years. Probably WW1 anw WW2's version of "glowcoat" on the toes and heals of my Army "dress" uniform "low quarters".

Thanks for clearing this up for us...at least I'm satisfied!

Milt

03-20-2001, 07:55 PM	#1
Steve User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Holsters While we are on the subject of holsters, does anyone know of an experimental "paint" finish that was applied. I say experimental as I have only seen a couple others with this brown finish. Is it something that was done originally by the Manufacturer or in the field, or what. This one that is pictured is a 1936 Kurt Voegels. Thanks, Steve http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/1936hol.jpg

03-20-2001, 08:18 PM	#2
Milt Keller User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Holsters I have a 1916 that has rather a thick, like varnish covering on it. On the flap, there are rather long "cracks" on just the surface of whatever this stuff is. This is the first one of those I've seen, and am curious to what this might be. Milt

03-20-2001, 09:29 PM	#3
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Holsters Years ago there was a shoe preparation that came in a bottle with a big dauber for "painting" on a new finish to worn and scuffed shoes. The finish on your holster sure does look like the finish left by this preparation.

03-20-2001, 10:18 PM	#4
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Holsters It does appear to be a holster that someone has 'Scuffkote'd Seems to me that Scuffkote was a popular brand of, well..it wasn't really polish, but that was what it was used for in the late fifties and early sixties. You could turn a worn pair of black oxfords into a newly varnished pair of nice brown dress shoes..along with the laces.

03-20-2001, 11:16 PM	#5
Milt Keller User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Holsters Johnny, This is not a "shoe polish, dauber applied" This, I think is a professionally applied protective addition, and I might add, must have been "added" a number of years ago. It almost makes the holster impervious to time. It's hard as hell, and cannot be scratched without a great amount of pressure. Thanks, Milt Keller

03-20-2001, 11:26 PM	#6
Milt Keller User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Holsters Bill, This sounds more like it. However, given the age of the two holsters to which it is applied, it might be an earlier relative of the product you mention'd. I remember the product, but my holster is coated with a "clear coat" and not a product I feel is designed for footwear, ergo, the cracks! I think it is more a product that was designed to "protect" leather products, much the same as the patent'ing of leather. Probably the work of some "strack" enlisted German soldier, wanting to impress his duty officer!

03-21-2001, 12:11 AM	#7
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Holsters I remember the shoe preparation from the 50's and that has been a number of years ago whether I like to admit it or not. While I don't specifically remember a clear coating, the rack contained all the different shoe colors.

03-21-2001, 07:59 AM	#8
Marvin Cook Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Holsters Steve, I have never heard of a finish like you describe on a Luger holster, but during the war, Walther PP and PPK holsters made from a presses paper type material had a "varnish" finish. Also, I think, some of the leather holsters had a "varnish" finish applied which gave them a very nice shiney finish. Most of these were for the Political Leaders holsters for dress wear. This is all I know on the subject. Marvin

03-21-2001, 02:15 PM	#9
Milt Keller User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Holsters Marvin........ Now, that makes sense to me! As I said earlier, It probably was for "dress". I know one thing, it's hard as hell. It looks like it's been there for many many years. Probably WW1 anw WW2's version of "glowcoat" on the toes and heals of my Army "dress" uniform "low quarters". Thanks for clearing this up for us...at least I'm satisfied! Milt