American Eagle Telescoping Stock Holster

Maestro · 08-31-2013, 05:35 AM

..this is a pretty cool accessory... i wonder if it can be applied to a german luger.

Maestro · 08-31-2013, 05:38 AM

...unfortunately or fortunately (if they're fake!!) these are not mine

.. with the original grips!

Maestro · 08-31-2013, 05:40 AM

..i guess American Eagle Lugers are not bad after all..

Maestro · 08-31-2013, 05:42 AM

it would be nice to have one of these... or two

Sergio Natali · 08-31-2013, 09:11 AM

I,ve got one, it's probably the best rig I've got.
I would redirect you to a previous post: "1900 AMERICAN EAGLE WITH ORIGINAL IDEAL STOCK" where you can see some of my photos but more important an excellent explanation given by Itacaartist.

alanint · 08-31-2013, 09:25 AM

Several members here own these stocks. The example you show appears to have Had the belt clip snapped off. I don't believe this part is removable.

Edward Tinker · 08-31-2013, 09:52 AM

it is on ebay right now, I recognize the pictures

most stocks are not legal to put on pistols, but these are legal on 'certain' models.

Ron Wood · 08-31-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by alanint

Several members here own these stocks. The example you show appears to have Had the belt clip snapped off. I don't believe this part is removable.

The belt clip is removable and can be placed on either side of the holster for right hand or left hand use.

Maestro · 08-31-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

it is on ebay right now, I recognize the pictures

most stocks are not legal to put on pistols, but these are legal on 'certain' models.

yes... that's where i saw it too

its quiet pricy!

here's a complete set for sale

Maestro · 08-31-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by luger.parabellum

I,ve got one, it's probably the best rig I've got.
I would redirect you to a previous post: "1900 AMERICAN EAGLE WITH ORIGINAL IDEAL STOCK" where you can see some of my photos but more important an excellent explanation given by Itacaartist.

... yes, here it is:

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Glenn,

I'll give you a little more detail... There are a pair of tangs extending forward from the front each side of the Ideal stock. When they are slipped through the slots Sergio mentions, they are then spread apart by moving a separator in the tubular frame, which also shifts the frame into shape for use. Hooks on the leading ends of the tangs are engaged with lugs on the back/frame sides of the grips. You can see the hooked portions in one of the pics above. Thus locked to the grips, which are, in turn, fastened to the frame by three screws; One is the usual grip screw, two more are the source of the question about them above; two tappings must be created on each side of the frame to accommodate them.

The stock lug on the Parabellum pistol became standard military spec in 1914, I believe. Many commercials and contract guns don't have them, and usually a 1900 or '06 does not. The lug wasn't meant to be used, though I'd bet it surely was, on 4" pistols, but was part of the configuration you'd expect on Navy or Artillery model pistols, both of which were issued with wooden board stocks. Commercial Navies, Arties, and Carbines obviously had them...

Sergio Natali · 09-01-2013, 08:47 AM

... I would add that here in Italy these rigs are not common at all, in fact as soon as I happened to see one I bought it straight away, good job it was in good conditions too.

ithacaartist · 09-01-2013, 01:32 PM

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...the grips, which are, in turn, fastened to the frame by three screws; One is the usual grip screw, two more are the source of the question about them above; two tappings must be created on each side of the frame to accommodate them.

All,

I was incorrect about this aspect of the connection. The two extra screws visible on the grips' faces are to attach the backer plates to the grips. The grips would then be installed on the frame of the gun as usual, with the spatial/geometric captivation at the top and the regular grip screw at the bottom!

Maestro · 09-01-2013, 02:51 PM

According to "Lugers at Random" by Charles Kenyon, Jr, this is a

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U.S. patented "IDEAL" telescoping holster stock: Depressing the release button on the top frame rod permits the tang portion to be extended (as shown in this picture), or collapsed for carrying. Note the belt hook on the left side. The holster portion is soft leather; the stock is marked "U.S. PATENT PENDING".

Maestro · 09-01-2013, 02:54 PM

furthermore:

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The attaching device consists of twin hooked tangs which fit into a special set of grips; these grips have a smooth walnut face and are metal backed.

08-31-2013, 05:35 AM	#1
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Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I,ve got one, it's probably the best rig I've got. I would redirect you to a previous post: "1900 AMERICAN EAGLE WITH ORIGINAL IDEAL STOCK" where you can see some of my photos but more important an excellent explanation given by Itacaartist. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Several members here own these stocks. The example you show appears to have Had the belt clip snapped off. I don't believe this part is removable.

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09-01-2013, 08:47 AM	#11
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	... I would add that here in Italy these rigs are not common at all, in fact as soon as I happened to see one I bought it straight away, good job it was in good conditions too. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.