Wwi Oal?

Dwight Gruber · 04-03-2006, 06:18 PM

I've searched, and can't find this information anywhere.

Can anyone provide the cartridge overall length specification for German WWI military ammunition, both the truncated-cone and ogival types?

Thanks.

--Dwight

unspellable · 04-03-2006, 08:03 PM

DWM's MINIMUM OAL for the round nosed bullet was the same as today's SAAMI MAXIMUM OAL of 1.169 inches, the principal reason for the Luger's less than shining reputation for reliability since ALL factory loads are below the original minimum OAL. (I'd like to know who the bright boy was who decided to shorten the cartridge.) I may have the specs for the truncated cone around somewhere, I'll have to look.

marshombre · 04-12-2006, 09:04 PM

A couple of weeks ago, my gunsmith was cleaning out 30+ years of cartridges and gave me a 1917 DWM 9mm. ogive round. It measures 1.168 OAL and .75 case length. Ya gotta love Teutonic efficiency!h

marshombre · 04-12-2006, 09:05 PM

A couple of weeks ago, my gunsmith was cleaning out 30+ years of cartridges and gave me a 1917 DWM 9mm. ogive round. It measures 1.168 OAL and .75 case length. Ya gotta love Teutonic efficiency!

Dwight Gruber · 04-12-2006, 09:11 PM

Mark,

Thanks very much for the information. A very cool item, you have there.

--Dwight

hqbmw · 04-12-2006, 10:12 PM

Dwight,

I have three different versions of DWM ammo from the teens.

The hollow point specimen dated 1913 measures 29.00mm end to end.

The flat top specimen dated 1915 measures 28.68mm end to end.

The round top specimen dated 1918 measures 29.55mm end to end.

I have 3 hollow points, 2 flat-tops, and 5 round top examples that I have pulled from my 9mm German selections.

Jack Hiles
Mesa AZ

Sieger · 04-13-2006, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dwight Gruber
I've searched, and can't find this information anywhere.

Can anyone provide the cartridge overall length specification for German WWI military ammunition, both the truncated-cone and ogival types?

Thanks.

--Dwight

Hi Dwight:

About a year or so ago, I measured the O.A.L. s and posted all of the pre WWII ammo that I had in my collection.

If you can find that thread, you will find the O.A.Ls of about 20 or so varieties of both German and American ammo from that period.

Good luck.

Sieger

04-03-2006, 06:18 PM	#1
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Wwi Oal? I've searched, and can't find this information anywhere. Can anyone provide the cartridge overall length specification for German WWI military ammunition, both the truncated-cone and ogival types? Thanks. --Dwight

04-12-2006, 09:04 PM	#3
marshombre User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: W Central FL Posts: 98 Thanks: 12 Thanked 20 Times in 11 Posts	A couple of weeks ago, my gunsmith was cleaning out 30+ years of cartridges and gave me a 1917 DWM 9mm. ogive round. It measures 1.168 OAL and .75 case length. Ya gotta love Teutonic efficiency!h __________________ Tempus edax rerum

04-12-2006, 09:05 PM	#4
marshombre User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: W Central FL Posts: 98 Thanks: 12 Thanked 20 Times in 11 Posts	A couple of weeks ago, my gunsmith was cleaning out 30+ years of cartridges and gave me a 1917 DWM 9mm. ogive round. It measures 1.168 OAL and .75 case length. Ya gotta love Teutonic efficiency! __________________ Tempus edax rerum

04-12-2006, 10:12 PM	#6
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	DWM teen age Ammo Dwight, I have three different versions of DWM ammo from the teens. The hollow point specimen dated 1913 measures 29.00mm end to end. The flat top specimen dated 1915 measures 28.68mm end to end. The round top specimen dated 1918 measures 29.55mm end to end. I have 3 hollow points, 2 flat-tops, and 5 round top examples that I have pulled from my 9mm German selections. Jack Hiles Mesa AZ

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04-03-2006, 08:03 PM	#2
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	DWM's MINIMUM OAL for the round nosed bullet was the same as today's SAAMI MAXIMUM OAL of 1.169 inches, the principal reason for the Luger's less than shining reputation for reliability since ALL factory loads are below the original minimum OAL. (I'd like to know who the bright boy was who decided to shorten the cartridge.) I may have the specs for the truncated cone around somewhere, I'll have to look.

04-12-2006, 09:11 PM	#5
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Mark, Thanks very much for the information. A very cool item, you have there. --Dwight