New Reno Gun Show Look ???

Pete Ebbink · 05-03-2006, 07:53 PM

Looks like the Reno Hilton will have a $ 1.8 BILLION new look :

http://www.grandsierraresort.com/

Anyone know the status of the future of the Reno gun shows ? I suspect room rates will change a bit from the $ 59-$ 79 rates from the recent past.

policeluger · 06-08-2006, 12:05 PM

It may be a bit early, but its time for me to start thinking about going....anyone else.....remember Pete, I'm buying us lunch....just us Ron.

drbuster · 06-08-2006, 07:50 PM

Pete, either this is wishful planning, or just a quick cosmetic upgrade as when I was there at the March meeting, nothing was going on construction wise. The place looked the same.

Pete Ebbink · 06-08-2006, 08:28 PM

Hi Doc,

The Sierra Development group was to take over the property from the Harrah's group on June 1, 2006. Hilton sold it to Harrah's a while back.

I think the project is serious...may take several years to complete.

It is more than just a cosmetic redo...budget is something like $ 1.8B (Billion...).

The casino will be moved to a new building outside of the tower complex to attract the residential condo buyer that does not want to walk through a casino environment.

Once the property is redone, there will be rooms to buy, rooms to buy on a time share, and rooms on a daily hotel basis...all of which mean the $ 59-79/night rates will just be a thing of the past.

All of this remodeling while keeping the property open and taking in income...

The lake they now use as a golf driving range will be converted to a water-park feature...

Ron Smith · 06-08-2006, 10:28 PM

Howard, I'd settle for a hotdog and a rootbeer.

I wonder if they will continue to host the gun shows?

policeluger · 06-08-2006, 10:55 PM

Ron, your on!...we'll start looking next week...tied up now.

Pete Ebbink · 06-29-2006, 01:34 AM

It's official...the Reno Hilton is no more :

http://www.condohotelcompany.com/ind...FUVbGAodSRAEvA

shadow · 06-29-2006, 09:35 AM

I attend a week long conference there every year. The Hilton had everything you needed right there and it was priced at a level that the average Joe could afford. The mini mall downstairs was more than adequate. The buffet was priced right, plentiful and had an excellent selection. The Mexican restaurant and sandwich shops were good and priced right. After reading what the new owners are going to do with the place I wonder if I can afford to go there anymore.

Chris

drbuster · 06-29-2006, 11:19 AM

Darn all this "progress" (read MONEY for the developer)! Will this effect the upcoming August show? Will the "Great Reno Show" have to be moved to a different venue?

Pete Ebbink · 06-30-2006, 10:51 PM

Hi Doc,

The August Reno show has not changed; not sure what will happen from then on especially if the exhibit hall rental rates get too high. Entry fees might just go up for the public.

I stayed at the "new" property last week for 2 days...the $ 59-79 room rates now seem to start at $ 109/night. No visible changes (i.e. improvements) with the new ownership, yet. But the Lodge buffet went up to $ 16.00/person for dinner.

drbuster · 07-07-2006, 08:38 PM

THIS is progress? At $109 a night for the room, at least they can make the water handles turn in the correct direction!

Lodi Jim · 07-31-2006, 06:30 PM

Does the Forum Group still gather for dinner? My daughter will be visiting me from Hawaii and I'd like her to see that not all gun folks are red necks (just most of us)!

drbuster · 07-31-2006, 11:07 PM

Lodi Jim, the dinner group should be there. Pete Ebbink used to organize things but he is not going. I would suggest finding Russ Withem's table and start from there.

Dwight Gruber · 08-09-2006, 12:29 PM

According to their website, the Reno show is contracted to the current venue through the year 2017.

--Dwight

drbuster · 08-13-2006, 01:42 AM

Just got back from the Reno show. It was very well attended, the aisles were packed. While there I watched several advertisement blurbs regarding the immediate and future plans of the new owners: Sierra Investment Company. Apparently several new high rise buildings are scheduled to be raised in the parking areas surrounding the main building plus many satellite town house structures. It is tilted towards the younger well healed couple who desires a home or vacation base in Reno. They were careful not to mention the prices in public. There will be major changes occurring very soon. I have no idea where we folks will park. They have already doubled most prices. I was told that Lou Fascio has a contract to keep running the gun show through 2017 and not 2007 as Dwight has said. It will remain to be seen how this will happen. Many lugers made their presence at this show. Unfortunately I forgot to pack my camera in the frenzy of my last minute decision to drive to the show instead of flying, in case you weren't aware of Thursday's events at airports.

05-03-2006, 07:53 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	New Reno Gun Show Look ??? Looks like the Reno Hilton will have a $ 1.8 BILLION new look : http://www.grandsierraresort.com/ Anyone know the status of the future of the Reno gun shows ? I suspect room rates will change a bit from the $ 59-$ 79 rates from the recent past.

06-08-2006, 10:28 PM	#5
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Howard, I'd settle for a hotdog and a rootbeer. I wonder if they will continue to host the gun shows? __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-29-2006, 09:35 AM	#8
shadow User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down The Shore Posts: 245 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	I attend a week long conference there every year. The Hilton had everything you needed right there and it was priced at a level that the average Joe could afford. The mini mall downstairs was more than adequate. The buffet was priced right, plentiful and had an excellent selection. The Mexican restaurant and sandwich shops were good and priced right. After reading what the new owners are going to do with the place I wonder if I can afford to go there anymore. Chris __________________ The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. George Washington

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06-08-2006, 12:05 PM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	It may be a bit early, but its time for me to start thinking about going....anyone else.....remember Pete, I'm buying us lunch....just us Ron.

06-08-2006, 07:50 PM	#3
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Pete, either this is wishful planning, or just a quick cosmetic upgrade as when I was there at the March meeting, nothing was going on construction wise. The place looked the same.

06-08-2006, 08:28 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Doc, The Sierra Development group was to take over the property from the Harrah's group on June 1, 2006. Hilton sold it to Harrah's a while back. I think the project is serious...may take several years to complete. It is more than just a cosmetic redo...budget is something like $ 1.8B (Billion...). The casino will be moved to a new building outside of the tower complex to attract the residential condo buyer that does not want to walk through a casino environment. Once the property is redone, there will be rooms to buy, rooms to buy on a time share, and rooms on a daily hotel basis...all of which mean the $ 59-79/night rates will just be a thing of the past. All of this remodeling while keeping the property open and taking in income... The lake they now use as a golf driving range will be converted to a water-park feature...

06-08-2006, 10:55 PM	#6
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Ron, your on!...we'll start looking next week...tied up now.

06-29-2006, 01:34 AM	#7
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	It's official...the Reno Hilton is no more : http://www.condohotelcompany.com/ind...FUVbGAodSRAEvA

06-29-2006, 11:19 AM	#9
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Darn all this "progress" (read MONEY for the developer)! Will this effect the upcoming August show? Will the "Great Reno Show" have to be moved to a different venue?

06-30-2006, 10:51 PM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Doc, The August Reno show has not changed; not sure what will happen from then on especially if the exhibit hall rental rates get too high. Entry fees might just go up for the public. I stayed at the "new" property last week for 2 days...the $ 59-79 room rates now seem to start at $ 109/night. No visible changes (i.e. improvements) with the new ownership, yet. But the Lodge buffet went up to $ 16.00/person for dinner.

07-07-2006, 08:38 PM	#11
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	THIS is progress? At $109 a night for the room, at least they can make the water handles turn in the correct direction!

07-31-2006, 06:30 PM	#12
Lodi Jim User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 65 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Does the Forum Group still gather for dinner? My daughter will be visiting me from Hawaii and I'd like her to see that not all gun folks are red necks (just most of us)!

07-31-2006, 11:07 PM	#13
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Lodi Jim, the dinner group should be there. Pete Ebbink used to organize things but he is not going. I would suggest finding Russ Withem's table and start from there.

08-09-2006, 12:29 PM	#14
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	According to their website, the Reno show is contracted to the current venue through the year 2017. --Dwight

08-13-2006, 01:42 AM	#15
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Just got back from the Reno show. It was very well attended, the aisles were packed. While there I watched several advertisement blurbs regarding the immediate and future plans of the new owners: Sierra Investment Company. Apparently several new high rise buildings are scheduled to be raised in the parking areas surrounding the main building plus many satellite town house structures. It is tilted towards the younger well healed couple who desires a home or vacation base in Reno. They were careful not to mention the prices in public. There will be major changes occurring very soon. I have no idea where we folks will park. They have already doubled most prices. I was told that Lou Fascio has a contract to keep running the gun show through 2017 and not 2007 as Dwight has said. It will remain to be seen how this will happen. Many lugers made their presence at this show. Unfortunately I forgot to pack my camera in the frenzy of my last minute decision to drive to the show instead of flying, in case you weren't aware of Thursday's events at airports.