POLL - M1906 DWM-Swiss Cross/Sunburst Lugers

Pete Ebbink · 04-29-2007, 04:45 PM

Please join us in helping provide some info. about your M1906 DWM-Swiss Luger (Cross/Sunburst variety only).

I am helping Members Mike and Armin to establish if a variety in the numbering of the TD levers and the trigger side plate exist and came from the factory.

Most commercial contract Lugers will have the 2-digits of the TD lever and the trigger side plate placed on the bottom edge with the tops of these numbers pointing away from the side of the pistol (...I call this rightside-up).

Mike, Armin, and others theorize that some of these M1906 DWM-Swiss cross/sunburst lugers left the factory with un-numbered TD levers and the 2 digits on the trigger side plate upside-down...that is with the tops of their numbers pointing towards the side of the pistol.

If you own a M1906 DWM-Swiss cross/sunburst Luger, please take a moment and fill out the Poll.

Please remember to indicate if you think your Luger is in a factory-original condition or a Swiss Ordnance rework or other rework.

Thanks in advance for your help !!!

Ron Wood · 04-29-2007, 05:11 PM

Pete,
Shouldn't this poll include both Cross in Sunburst and Cross in Shield? Mike's Swiss is a Cross in Shield, serial #9191, and the one that started this topic.

Pete Ebbink · 04-29-2007, 05:13 PM

Ron,

I am setting up another Poll for the cross/shields...

Will also try to figure out how to set one up for the '24 Bern with the Polling limits I have to work within...

Maybe another Poll for the M1900's as well.

Dwight Gruber · 04-29-2007, 06:43 PM

Pete,

I really appreciate the "Do not own/want to see results" line. An excellent idea, thanks for thinking of it.

--Dwight

Ron Wood · 04-29-2007, 07:36 PM

Sorry I was so quick on the trigger. Should have known you would cover the bases.

By the way, I agree with Dwight about the "Do not own..." option. You are getting good at this stuff.

Ron Wood · 04-29-2007, 08:16 PM

OK, had a senior moment and selected the wrong serial number range. Picked 1908 no TD # side plate upside down...should have been 1907 (#6392). Don't want to skew the results, so perhaps you can edit the poll.

Also, you may want to include the W+F Bern in your poll. I have #15640 in what I think is factory original finish with unnumbered take down and upside down side plate number. It would seem that the Swiss reputation for precision does not extend to consistent small parts numbering!

View Poll Results: M1906 Swiss Cross/Sunburst Numbering On Your TD Lever and your Trigger Side Plate
Serials 5001-5600 (made 1906) - Both TD lever & side plate have 2-digits, tops of numbers pointing away from Luger side.	2	16.67%
Serials 5001-5600 (made 1906) - No number on TD lever & side plate numbers are upside-down.	1	8.33%
Serials 5601-7100 (made 1907) - Both TD lever & side plate have 2-digits, tops of numbers pointing away from Luger side.	1	8.33%
Serials 5601-7100 (made 1907) - No number on TD lever & side plate numbers are upside-down.	1	8.33%
Serials 7101-9050 (made 1908) - Both TD lever & side plate have 2-digits, tops of numbers pointing away from Luger side.	2	16.67%
Serials 7101-9050 (made 1908) - No number on TD lever & side plate numbers are upside-down.	4	33.33%
My Luger is a factory-original finish.	2	16.67%
My Luger is an Ordnance asensal rework or other rework.	2	16.67%
My luger has another numbering format on the TD lever & side plate (Please describe in discussion section, below.).	0	0%
I do not own a Swiss Luger but want to see the Poll results	6	50.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

04-29-2007, 05:11 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Pete, Shouldn't this poll include both Cross in Sunburst and Cross in Shield? Mike's Swiss is a Cross in Shield, serial #9191, and the one that started this topic. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-29-2007, 07:36 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Sorry I was so quick on the trigger. Should have known you would cover the bases. By the way, I agree with Dwight about the "Do not own..." option. You are getting good at this stuff. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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04-29-2007, 04:45 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	POLL - M1906 DWM-Swiss Cross/Sunburst Lugers Please join us in helping provide some info. about your M1906 DWM-Swiss Luger (Cross/Sunburst variety only). I am helping Members Mike and Armin to establish if a variety in the numbering of the TD levers and the trigger side plate exist and came from the factory. Most commercial contract Lugers will have the 2-digits of the TD lever and the trigger side plate placed on the bottom edge with the tops of these numbers pointing away from the side of the pistol (...I call this rightside-up). Mike, Armin, and others theorize that some of these M1906 DWM-Swiss cross/sunburst lugers left the factory with un-numbered TD levers and the 2 digits on the trigger side plate upside-down...that is with the tops of their numbers pointing towards the side of the pistol. If you own a M1906 DWM-Swiss cross/sunburst Luger, please take a moment and fill out the Poll. Please remember to indicate if you think your Luger is in a factory-original condition or a Swiss Ordnance rework or other rework. Thanks in advance for your help !!!

04-29-2007, 05:13 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Ron, I am setting up another Poll for the cross/shields... Will also try to figure out how to set one up for the '24 Bern with the Polling limits I have to work within... Maybe another Poll for the M1900's as well.

04-29-2007, 06:43 PM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Pete, I really appreciate the "Do not own/want to see results" line. An excellent idea, thanks for thinking of it. --Dwight

04-29-2007, 08:16 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	OK, had a senior moment and selected the wrong serial number range. Picked 1908 no TD # side plate upside down...should have been 1907 (#6392). Don't want to skew the results, so perhaps you can edit the poll. Also, you may want to include the W+F Bern in your poll. I have #15640 in what I think is factory original finish with unnumbered take down and upside down side plate number. It would seem that the Swiss reputation for precision does not extend to consistent small parts numbering! __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction