Stoeger Stainless Luger

[el_loco]

Hi there!

Today my Stoeger 9mm 4" arrived.
It came with two magazines, a plastic loading tool and the original gun case mit matching serial-number of the gun.
Condition is near new, seems the owner before didnt shoot it to often.

The price, well, for that money i also get a nice original...
But i wanted it, cause of the original accessories and cause it got no proof while beeing imported.

I saw pics from similar guns here in a threads and im wondering now: mine has the eagle-stamp, but the date is missing.
i cant say, when it was produced.

I read also in a few older threads, that it was difficult or impossible to get parts.
Now my question, is it still the same situation or is it better to get them?

Thanks
Klaus

[padredan]

Klaus, to my knowledge all the ss lugers were made by one company in houston tx and they closed up long ago. I own one and know of no one else having parts. there maybe a few magazines out there but thats about it.

[el_loco]

Thank you for your replay.

I hoped, you would say, that parts are easy to get...

I wanted to shoot it regulary, but the risk of broken parts is to high then. No problem, i see it as a collector item then.

A reason to buy another one


Best regards
Klaus

[padredan]

I shoot mine, just use the correct ammo, the same as you would with a normal luger around 1050fps, enjoy it, i do mine.

[ithacaartist]

Klaus,

Some of the parts on a 90's stainless will interchange with originals; however, I'm not certain which parts.

Issues involved with this "variation" are metallurgical, whereby either the heat treating or specific alloy of some frames lends them to excessive wear/deformation in the area where the toggle knobs encounter the ramps on the frame's "ears". Finish can be an issue as well, with over-buffing that results in side plates' and other flat surfaces' having a "wavy" look to them.

Shooter or collectible? I'm not sure if the rates of breakage of these is commensurate with originals' parts failures, which are really rather low because the Parabellum is a robust, sturdy pistol. In this case, it would not be involving a numbered part, as they were not marked this way, rather, an expense to have the failed one reproduced by someone competent. Though these have not been universally acknowledged in the collectors' community, there were far fewer of these produced than originals--hence they are, in fact, rather scarce. This last aspect lends collectability to them for a growing number of enthusiasts.

Whether to shoot, and with whatever regularity, is up to you!

D.P.

[padredan]

If that is market price, they have gone up alot, but what hasn't. I noticed there is no chamber date on that one either.

[el_loco]

i paid nearly the same.
that stainless loading tool at that auction would be interesting. mine came with an ugly plastic thing.

only part, where i see problems, when it brakes, is the ejector.
it is different to the original luger. it should be possible to make one, if you get none from the manufactorer. but if the broken part is lost somewhere at the range and you will have to find out a working shape and measure, it will keeps you busy for a while.

you have new export restrictions since about 2 (?) years. i would have to find out first, if i could buy parts, when they would be available.
next point, we still dont talk about the price for a export licence, if the part may be exported.
i heard, they want 500 $ for that, but i didnt proof that.

well, making one before shooting would be a possibility too.
i let you know, what i will do.

in every case, collecting or shooting, im glad to have one

best regards
klaus

[el_loco]

hi,

im now a proud owner of the mitchell arms version too.
if i compare both now, i have to say, that the mitchell looks better:
through the correctly shaped ejector it is much nearer to an original one
also the surface look better.

now i have to find out, what interchangeable.

and vlim, sorry again for overbidding you.

regards klaus

[K.Wilhelm]

Since I've wanted a Luger for years, but was intimidated by all that I didn't know about the originals, I recently got a Stoeger. I quickly got over my fear of fieldstripping it and learned something about the inner workings. Once I developed a load it likes with HP38 powder and a longer oal than I'm used to, it functions fine. I didn't know that so few of the parts would interchange with the originals.
Anyway, now that I've been bitten by the Luger bug, I'm sure an original or two (or three?) will follow.

[ithacaartist]

Interesting this old thread reappears. As luck would have it, I will be receiving one of these soon, purchased from a a fellow forum-ite. I've always liked how they look, and I really appreciate the opportunity to do business with a brother from the forum. He asked a fair price, so it was time for me to get one!

[padredan]

congrats