my profile |
register |
faq |
search upload photo | donate | calendar |
02-19-2013, 06:21 PM | #1 |
User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Auburn, WA USA
Posts: 32
Thanks: 4
Thanked 19 Times in 4 Posts
|
Interesting Fallschirmjager P.08 Holster Replica
IMA has just come up with this, which according to them is based on an original that they have. A friend of mine found a similar German-produced reproduction, albeit with a buckle for the strap release, and with the "backboard" portion ending at the barrel base, instead of extending to the muzzle.
Any comments/experience on its historic authenticity? It certainly looks interesting, and potentially viable for the once a year I like to campaign my 1938 John Martz re-done S/42 in an IDPA match. http://www.ima-usa.com/militaria/hol...n-holster.html Here's the other German reproduction with the buckle set-up: http://www.militariaandmore.de/Holst...ooper-WH-Elite Best, Jon |
02-19-2013, 06:40 PM | #2 |
User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PA
Posts: 425
Thanks: 217
Thanked 408 Times in 149 Posts
|
I would sure like to see a picture or two of their original. Pure fantacy in my opinion.
|
02-19-2013, 06:52 PM | #3 |
Moderator
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,772
Thanks: 4,940
Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts
|
Jon, I don't remember ever seeing a period photo of one of these. I have looked at many German paratroop photo's and all I have ever seen wore the regulation holster. P-38 or Luger. I can't say there would be any advantage to such a skeleton holster. At least I can't think of any and several disadvantages..no extra magazine and no tool..that and the pistol is exposed to the elements..water, mud, dust..snow. Just seems rediculous to me.
__________________
Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know." |
02-19-2013, 08:00 PM | #4 |
User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Marco Island, Florida
Posts: 4,867
Thanks: 1,685
Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts
|
I have a very good Fallshirmjager book and there is nothing remotely close to this in any photos. A paratrooper would wish to protect his sidearm, not expose it to the elements.
Last edited by alanint; 02-20-2013 at 07:19 AM. |
02-19-2013, 08:17 PM | #5 |
User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Auburn, WA USA
Posts: 32
Thanks: 4
Thanked 19 Times in 4 Posts
|
The only advantage that I can come up with is that such a holster would be somewhat more speedily drawn, with the user needing only to pull the strap off the retaining stud.
The protectiveness of the normal issue clamshell holster is certainly undeniable-but the user would need to first unbuckle the securing strap (or remove it from the retaining stud for thse models so fastened), pull the flap portion open, and then tug down the "elevating " strap to raise the Luger in the holster to an easily graspable position, and then (finally!) draw the pistol. I suspect that such relative inaccessibility resulted in the myriad of WWII images of troops imminently to be engaged in combat sallying forth with the pistol removed from the holster, and merely stuffed behind their belts for a modicum of security, but a maximum of accessibility. Thanks for the feedback so far. While I'm far from an expert, I'd never heard of such a rig either in actuality. I can perceive some advantages inherent to it, but I'm also a bit skeptical as to its historical basis. Best, Jon |
02-19-2013, 09:24 PM | #6 |
Moderator
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,772
Thanks: 4,940
Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts
|
Jon, speedily drawn is a Hollywood story for cowboys. The Luger as any pistol in war is a defensive weapon. It would be readily apparent when it was needed well beforehand.
The main disadvantage in my way of thinking is the lack of a spare magazine..Having twice as many rounds available is a little better than a quick draw IMO. Either way this holster was not regulation and as far as I know did not exist.
__________________
Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know." |
02-19-2013, 09:27 PM | #7 |
Lifer 2X
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005
Location: Somewhere in Montana
Posts: 2,637
Thanks: 3,175
Thanked 2,562 Times in 956 Posts
|
I'm afraid fast draw was not an issue in War. This holster in my opinion is pure BS... Bill
__________________
Bill Lyon |
02-19-2013, 11:12 PM | #8 |
Lifer
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: VA
Posts: 3,592
Thanks: 1,773
Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts
|
Absolute hogwash.
|
02-19-2013, 11:14 PM | #9 |
User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Retired to Naples, FL.
Posts: 488
Thanks: 90
Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts
|
seem to be a lot of this type in brown colour on ebay with sellers in the old soviet-slavic countries.
|
02-19-2013, 11:54 PM | #10 |
User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country
Posts: 767
Thanks: 100
Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts
|
I would describe it as being a piece of a holster.
Jack |
02-20-2013, 01:24 AM | #11 |
Moderator
2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso
Posts: 7,022
Thanks: 1,090
Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts
|
I would agree that it is a piece of "something".
__________________
If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction |
02-20-2013, 07:05 AM | #12 |
User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Marco Island, Florida
Posts: 4,867
Thanks: 1,685
Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts
|
There are plenty of photos of FJs with Lugers stuck in their smock pockets at the end of a lanyard for a "quick draw", but these are almost all photos taken in a combat area. The item pictured is right up there with SS "Butterfly" knives.
|
02-20-2013, 08:55 AM | #13 |
Lifer
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Scottsboro, Alabama
Posts: 546
Thanks: 559
Thanked 442 Times in 168 Posts
|
Thanks Ron. You gave me a well needed chuckle this morning--"something" huh.
__________________
Neil The hurrier I go the behinder I get. Sometimes it takes me all day to get nothing done. |
02-20-2013, 10:41 AM | #14 |
User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 312
Thanks: 335
Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts
|
I can't comment with regards to the holster being an authentic issue design, but for 20 bucks it looks like it would make a decent carry holster for a shooter Luger at the range.
__________________
Dave |
02-20-2013, 10:30 PM | #15 |
Lifer X5
Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: texas
Posts: 708
Thanks: 87
Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts
|
the problem i have is why would IMA make up a story
like this.....i have never had any problems dealing with them......tom
|
02-20-2013, 11:00 PM | #16 |
User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Marco Island, Florida
Posts: 4,867
Thanks: 1,685
Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts
|
You don't know IMA very well. They have been embroiled in controvery ever since the Nepal deal, which the goverment there insists was cut through a corrupt official and the Nepal armory was sold off for peanuts.
If you ever read their catalogues, website, DVDs and offers carefully, they are not above "embelleshing" an item for a bumped up sale. http://www.nepalnews.com/home/index....s-company.html |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|