1900 Swiss SN Placement?

Arizona Slim · 03-25-2016, 05:46 PM

In RIAC's upcoming auction I noticed a 1900 Swiss that has the last two digits of the SN on the back side (right side of the pistol) on the take down lever and the mag release button, is this correct and if so should they all be marked like that or just the early release pistols? My Swiss SN 2512 is not marked this way.

Lon

http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/67/lid/3325

mrerick · 03-25-2016, 08:03 PM

My swiss 1900 in the 2800 serial number range has the 2 digits on the rear toggle in that position, but nothing stamped on the end of the take down lever or magazine release.

Marc

Arizona Slim · 03-25-2016, 09:57 PM

Thank you Marc, appreciate your response. I noticed also that the one in the RIAC sale was "Refurbished" wonder if that is when the last two digits were added?

Lon

Ron Wood · 03-25-2016, 10:15 PM

The very early guns were marked in that manner. I don't recall when they stopped marking them that way...for the Swiss I think it was around serial #1000 or close to it. The marking on the magazine release was the first to go. The US Test trials guns still had the serial number on the right round of the take down lever until after #7100, then it shifted to the left side flat. The digits on the RIA piece were not added, it was made that way.

Arizona Slim · 03-26-2016, 10:06 AM

Thanks Ron, seems like the longer I stay in this hobby the less I know.

Lon

hayhugh · 03-26-2016, 10:35 AM

My 1900 (SN-1284) is marked on the RS of the takedown leaver with 84 also the mag. release button.

Ron Wood · 03-26-2016, 11:17 AM

Hugh,
Is your #1284 Swiss Military, Swiss Commercial or Commercial?

hayhugh · 03-26-2016, 02:22 PM

Ron, I took it to be a Commercial, but what do I know. What is the easiest way to tell the difference? I bought it at auction (RIA) a few years back.

Dick Herman · 03-26-2016, 04:05 PM

My 1900 Swiss military is serial number 1327. The take down lever and the magazine release are both marked 27 on the pistol right side.

hayhugh · 03-26-2016, 05:15 PM

Sorry Ron, we have already had this dance: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=34986
I marked it down this time....

Sergio Natali · 03-27-2016, 04:16 PM

My early 1900 DWM American Eagle # 7234 take down lever is marked with the last two digits; the American Eagle # 14124 bears the last two digits on the plate; the older Swiss hasn't got any Bern cross behind the toggle, while my later 1900 military Swiss # 2238 does it but none of the pistols has got the rear sight altered from "V" to "U".
As Lon rightly said the longer I stay in this hobby the less I know...

Happy Easter to all.

spacecoast · 04-18-2016, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Ron, I took it to be a Commercial, but what do I know. What is the easiest way to tell the difference? I bought it at auction (RIA) a few years back.

I'm pretty sure the Commercials are BUG proofed and the Militaries have a small Swiss Cross on the left side of the barrel and receiver.

03-25-2016, 08:03 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	My swiss 1900 in the 2800 serial number range has the 2 digits on the rear toggle in that position, but nothing stamped on the end of the take down lever or magazine release. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

03-25-2016, 10:15 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	The very early guns were marked in that manner. I don't recall when they stopped marking them that way...for the Swiss I think it was around serial #1000 or close to it. The marking on the magazine release was the first to go. The US Test trials guns still had the serial number on the right round of the take down lever until after #7100, then it shifted to the left side flat. The digits on the RIA piece were not added, it was made that way. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-27-2016, 04:16 PM	#11
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	My early 1900 DWM American Eagle # 7234 take down lever is marked with the last two digits; the American Eagle # 14124 bears the last two digits on the plate; the older Swiss hasn't got any Bern cross behind the toggle, while my later 1900 military Swiss # 2238 does it but none of the pistols has got the rear sight altered from "V" to "U". As Lon rightly said the longer I stay in this hobby the less I know... Happy Easter to all. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

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03-25-2016, 05:46 PM	#1
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	1900 Swiss SN Placement? In RIAC's upcoming auction I noticed a 1900 Swiss that has the last two digits of the SN on the back side (right side of the pistol) on the take down lever and the mag release button, is this correct and if so should they all be marked like that or just the early release pistols? My Swiss SN 2512 is not marked this way. Lon http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/67/lid/3325

03-25-2016, 09:57 PM	#3
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	Thank you Marc, appreciate your response. I noticed also that the one in the RIAC sale was "Refurbished" wonder if that is when the last two digits were added? Lon

03-26-2016, 10:06 AM	#5
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	Thanks Ron, seems like the longer I stay in this hobby the less I know. Lon

03-26-2016, 10:35 AM	#6
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 896 Thanks: 857 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	My 1900 (SN-1284) is marked on the RS of the takedown leaver with 84 also the mag. release button.

03-26-2016, 11:17 AM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Hugh, Is your #1284 Swiss Military, Swiss Commercial or Commercial? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-26-2016, 02:22 PM	#8
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 896 Thanks: 857 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	Ron, I took it to be a Commercial, but what do I know. What is the easiest way to tell the difference? I bought it at auction (RIA) a few years back.

03-26-2016, 04:05 PM	#9
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	My 1900 Swiss military is serial number 1327. The take down lever and the magazine release are both marked 27 on the pistol right side.

03-26-2016, 05:15 PM	#10
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 896 Thanks: 857 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	Sorry Ron, we have already had this dance: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=34986 I marked it down this time....