Another 1911 Find

padredan · 04-07-2012, 12:41 PM

I picked up this rather nice all original colt 1917 1911 this week. This one is a keeper for sure, good all original 1911 and 1911a's are getting more and more harder to find as well as the price keeps going up.

GySgt1811 · 04-07-2012, 12:50 PM

Woof!!!

padredan · 04-07-2012, 12:58 PM

If this old warhorse could talk

padredan · 04-07-2012, 01:03 PM

And this is a 1941 norwegian i traded for a few weeks back, not many of these around. Everything matchs and in about 95 percent.

alanint · 04-07-2012, 04:28 PM

Dan, If you ever want to part with the Norwegian, I have a friend here in Florida who is Norwegian and a top executive at Norwegian Cruise Lines. he trained with this gun and has been on the lookout for an example.

padredan · 04-07-2012, 04:52 PM

just got it. they are rare and just findinga good one and matched even harder to do.

GySgt1811 · 04-07-2012, 05:03 PM

Padre,

I've been a .45 lover, man and boy, for nigh onto 50 years now. In all this time I've never seen a Norwegian. (Heard about them, of course.) I'm absolutely impressed with that slide release! That might be the only real improvement in a 1911 since John Moses finished with it. How do you like its operation?

John

padredan · 04-07-2012, 05:12 PM

just fired it today, flawless, not one i will shoot alot, but as we know any of the 1911's are not ammo picky, this one will be a keeper.

padredan · 04-07-2012, 06:48 PM

The slide release, well lets say they got that one right. and talk about numbering parts, it has the military lugers beat, it cost me a ton, but how often do you even see one much less find one for sale.

CJS57 · 04-07-2012, 10:49 PM

I hope you don't take offense, but both guns are reblued.

padredan · 04-08-2012, 12:01 AM

not a bit, the price was adjusted for it. when you find rare 1911.s all matching you grab them up.

lugersrkewl · 04-08-2012, 01:49 AM

nice 1911's thanks for posting pics

padredan · 04-08-2012, 02:43 AM

yw. I own alot more 1911's than i do lugers. i allways have admired them and allways will. Never thinking that one day i would stake my life on one. This remington rand is only two digits off the one i carried over forty years ago. of all the guns in my collection this is the one i feel the closest to, hard to explain that kind of bond with a firearm. I would be wiling i am not the only one that feels that way.

Went Blakely · 04-08-2012, 06:28 AM

Aw man! That is lovely

sheepherder · 04-08-2012, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GySgt1811

I'm absolutely impressed with that slide release! That might be the only real improvement in a 1911 since John Moses finished with it.

I must disagree. If you have ever owned an Argentine Army M1927 .45 (DGFM-FMAP) you would be impressed by the workmanship and innovation in manufacturing. For example, the trigger is milled out of one piece of steel (no stamping & silver-soldering). If you read the tool marks on other parts, you'll appreciate how the Argentines used their limited tooling resources to achieve the same ends Colt does/did on their M1911A1's.

I had a book once on the Argentine .45's; IIRC they nationalized the factory that Colt had financed (same with the FN plant)...

I still own one of these Argentine .45's, used to be my carry piece, now a safe queen...

Anyway, my point here was that Colt et al may have used manufacturing techniques and cost-cutting options that Browning may not have envisioned (or approved)...

That M1911A1 that you & I carried back in the 60's/70's was not exactly what JMB engineered...

padredan · 04-08-2012, 10:42 AM

maybe, but i never used a argentine 1927 to save the life of my wounded rto.

sheepherder · 04-08-2012, 11:04 AM

The 1911 patent filed by Browning is quite interesting...Overall, it resembles the M1911 as adopted by the US Army, but there are a lot of fascinating differences...

United States Patent 984,519
Issue Date: February 14, 1911

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...uery=PN/984519

GySgt1811 · 04-08-2012, 11:06 PM

It's a heart/love/confidence thing. I carry a 1911. (NOT A1)

Rationally, I "know" there are "better" guns, newer methods, faster this, cooler that...etc. And I know my 1911/Browning/Colt history; what Browning designed and what the Ordinance Boards changed and added.

"Bark 'N' Buck" (engraved thusly on the slide many years ago ) went with me to Desert Storm. I had to sneak it over and back. We weren't supposed to bring our own toys. Luckily, crusty over-aged Gunnery Sergeants don't get strip searched...at least not then.

As a Marine Tanker my TO weapon was a pistol and I wanted one that would remove unwanted and uninvited debris from my front slope.

To each his own...but to me, "Bark 'N' Buck is total...absolute...confidence. To all of you, I hope your choice makes you as confident.

(Jeez...is that a rant? Wow! I've never done a rant before. Cool!

)

Best regards to all,

Gunny John

padredan · 04-08-2012, 11:36 PM

John, that was no rant, that was a HONEST statement. Perhaps a testament that sums up just how alot of us feel about ole slabsides, thank you for speaking your feellings ,alot of us share that bond of confidence with our 1911.s , like we do with no other. OHOO WAAA

alvin · 04-09-2012, 07:54 AM

I had a stainless Colt 1991A1 back some years ago. It's a very accurate pistol.

Recently, read an article on "Man at Arms" which talks about "Black Army 1911" (WWI wartime finish). It's very interesting.

04-07-2012, 12:41 PM	#1
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	Another 1911 Find I picked up this rather nice all original colt 1917 1911 this week. This one is a keeper for sure, good all original 1911 and 1911a's are getting more and more harder to find as well as the price keeps going up. Attached Thumbnails __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

04-07-2012, 12:50 PM	#2
GySgt1811 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 237 Thanks: 1,238 Thanked 126 Times in 84 Posts	Woof!!! Last edited by GySgt1811; 04-07-2012 at 12:52 PM. Reason: Duh! The icon didn't work

04-07-2012, 12:58 PM	#3
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	If this old warhorse could talk Attached Thumbnails __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

04-07-2012, 01:03 PM	#4
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	And this is a 1941 norwegian i traded for a few weeks back, not many of these around. Everything matchs and in about 95 percent. Attached Thumbnails __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

04-07-2012, 04:52 PM	#6
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	just got it. they are rare and just findinga good one and matched even harder to do. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

04-07-2012, 04:28 PM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Dan, If you ever want to part with the Norwegian, I have a friend here in Florida who is Norwegian and a top executive at Norwegian Cruise Lines. he trained with this gun and has been on the lookout for an example.

04-07-2012, 05:03 PM	#7
GySgt1811 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 237 Thanks: 1,238 Thanked 126 Times in 84 Posts	Padre, I've been a .45 lover, man and boy, for nigh onto 50 years now. In all this time I've never seen a Norwegian. (Heard about them, of course.) I'm absolutely impressed with that slide release! That might be the only real improvement in a 1911 since John Moses finished with it. How do you like its operation? John

04-07-2012, 05:12 PM	#8
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	just fired it today, flawless, not one i will shoot alot, but as we know any of the 1911's are not ammo picky, this one will be a keeper. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

04-07-2012, 06:48 PM	#9
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	The slide release, well lets say they got that one right. and talk about numbering parts, it has the military lugers beat, it cost me a ton, but how often do you even see one much less find one for sale. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

04-07-2012, 10:49 PM	#10
CJS57 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 224 Thanks: 0 Thanked 81 Times in 41 Posts	I hope you don't take offense, but both guns are reblued.

04-08-2012, 12:01 AM	#11
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	not a bit, the price was adjusted for it. when you find rare 1911.s all matching you grab them up. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

04-08-2012, 01:49 AM	#12
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	nice 1911's thanks for posting pics

04-08-2012, 02:43 AM	#13
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	yw. I own alot more 1911's than i do lugers. i allways have admired them and allways will. Never thinking that one day i would stake my life on one. This remington rand is only two digits off the one i carried over forty years ago. of all the guns in my collection this is the one i feel the closest to, hard to explain that kind of bond with a firearm. I would be wiling i am not the only one that feels that way. Attached Thumbnails __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

04-08-2012, 06:28 AM	#14
Went Blakely User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 231 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Aw man! That is lovely __________________ Went Blakely

04-08-2012, 10:42 AM	#16
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	maybe, but i never used a argentine 1927 to save the life of my wounded rto. __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

04-08-2012, 11:04 AM	#17
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	The 1911 patent filed by Browning is quite interesting...Overall, it resembles the M1911 as adopted by the US Army, but there are a lot of fascinating differences... United States Patent 984,519 Issue Date: February 14, 1911 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...uery=PN/984519 __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

04-08-2012, 11:06 PM	#18
GySgt1811 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 237 Thanks: 1,238 Thanked 126 Times in 84 Posts	It's a heart/love/confidence thing. I carry a 1911. (NOT A1) Rationally, I "know" there are "better" guns, newer methods, faster this, cooler that...etc. And I know my 1911/Browning/Colt history; what Browning designed and what the Ordinance Boards changed and added. "Bark 'N' Buck" (engraved thusly on the slide many years ago ) went with me to Desert Storm. I had to sneak it over and back. We weren't supposed to bring our own toys. Luckily, crusty over-aged Gunnery Sergeants don't get strip searched...at least not then. As a Marine Tanker my TO weapon was a pistol and I wanted one that would remove unwanted and uninvited debris from my front slope. To each his own...but to me, "Bark 'N' Buck is total...absolute...confidence. To all of you, I hope your choice makes you as confident. (Jeez...is that a rant? Wow! I've never done a rant before. Cool! ) Best regards to all, Gunny John

04-08-2012, 11:36 PM	#19
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	John, that was no rant, that was a HONEST statement. Perhaps a testament that sums up just how alot of us feel about ole slabsides, thank you for speaking your feellings ,alot of us share that bond of confidence with our 1911.s , like we do with no other. OHOO WAAA __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

04-09-2012, 07:54 AM	#20
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	I had a stainless Colt 1991A1 back some years ago. It's a very accurate pistol. Recently, read an article on "Man at Arms" which talks about "Black Army 1911" (WWI wartime finish). It's very interesting.