I Need Help!

lugerluser · 06-08-2006, 06:10 PM

Like I said, I need help. New to forum's, And way new to Lugers. I have been buying & selling guns for years. Mostly 1911's. For the last 10 years, I have allways loved Lugers from afar. Never knew about them so never bought one.
hk's, sig's, colts, glocks, les baer's, wilsons, I have had them all. THEN i got married! Where the hell did my gun $ go? THEN, kids! So needless to say my priorties changed. So have my tastes. I now have to sell a gun or two, to get one. Now selling guns that i have no passion for. And buying guns that mean something. I just sold a few, and bought an M-1 Garand, a High Standard .22, A Belgium Browning Trap gun & a Carbine. You know what, I like having Good old guns that look good, i can shoot, interesting & might be worth more $ later. So I am selling a couple of Kimbers on gun broker, and buying my first Luger. You know what i know about Lugers NOTHING! Well a little. I know what I THINK i want. Military or Commercial i don't know. I know i want a shooter, well, a gun some collecters would not shoot, but i would. Only about 20 to 50 rounds a year. 95 & up blueing, ALL matching numbers even the Mag. Something with a little history. And will gain value. At least a little. My budget will be about $1,000. A little more little less. Depends on my Kimber sales. Is this possible? I was going to buy on Gunbroker, till i read on here, Not to buy a Luger on an Auction site. So Guys, what do i do, were to buy. I want a great Luger for a great price. Doesn't everyone! Help! Thanks, Guys!

pipeman45 · 06-08-2006, 06:17 PM

In the condition you want,and the price you wish to pay. I wish you luck. Mismatched shooters are going for between $500-$650. I'm not saying you will never find one- I'm just saying for a 95% + pistol you may have to add another $1000.

lugerholsterrepair · 06-08-2006, 06:20 PM

LL, I suspect your budget is a tad short for 95% all matching with a matching mag. Generally an honest pistol in this catagory is going to start at $1300 to 2300. The matching mag is what kicks your dream in the head. You could probably find what you are looking for in this price range without the matched mag. Have patience and keep beating the bushes.
Most dealers will have pistols priced high, auctions are good if you ask enough questions and find an honest seller. Mostly this is a collector board so it is difficult to pry any pistols like this away from us. We are looking for them too! Good to try though, never know when someone is willing to give up something .
Welcome to the Luger Forum, glad to have you! Jerry Burney

You might look at Joe Salters site for some examples...

http://www.joesalter.com/index.html

Aaron · 06-09-2006, 03:02 AM

I'm sure a number of the members of this forum (including me) could supply a decent matching Luger in the $1000 range, but definitely not if you insist on the matching mag. Lugers with matching mags are definitely desired by collectors, and that's what drives the price up.

Bob in OH · 06-09-2006, 07:08 AM

Not to be cynical, but if your knowledge of lugs is low you might find a P08 with renumbed mag. Be careful, as some mags have been ground and renumbered and the unwary might be tricked. I saw a collection of about 6 lugs and 5 had bogus mags. The seller/dealer had no idea. Just be mindful when you look at that mag. Good luck on the hunt...

lugerluser · 06-09-2006, 10:01 AM

You guys are great, I am Learning! Keep 'em coming! Thanks!

lugerluser · 06-29-2006, 03:48 PM

Ok Guys! close to selling some guns, so very close to buying that first Luger. I have been looking for a shooter, and I am thinking I would like to have a "reblued" nice looking "matching" Luger. #51355068 is a luger on gunbroker. This looks like what I would want. I think. This is from someone who has NO lug history! What do you think? I want a good deal! Point me in the right direction! Sell me one or something. I hate not knowing what I am talking about! Anyway, thanks.

Dwight Gruber · 06-29-2006, 04:26 PM

This appears to be a rather nice, craftsmanly, older refinish job. Actually, its quite a bit nicer than most every other refinished Luger you see, and comes closer to a restoration (which it is not). I'd be curious to know what the bore is like if I was intending to shoot it.

In my opinion its price has reached its value, although if the goal is to have a really nice looking Luger for shooting, and only one, a person might find it worth a premium. I hope the seller hasn't set his reserve unrealistically high.

If you get it, in the long run you will probably find yourself wanting to have the small parts properly strawed. Also, consider that the magazine is not proper for the gun, and certainly useless for reliable shooting. You will certainly need other magazines, and may find that you want a proper wood-bottomed authentic magazine for display purposes.

A very intriguing rework, thanks very much for pointing it out. And good luck with it or whatever other Luger you decide on, be sure to let us know.

--Dwight

lugerluser · 06-29-2006, 05:14 PM

Thanks Dwight. I don't think I will have the $ in time to bid on that one. Just wanted to let you know what i am looking for. And if that was alright. I don't know what strawed means, and i don't want a lug that will not be reliable ( to a point). My budget will be somewhere around $1000. I guess what I am asking for is to be told, hay have this gun or saw this gun on so & so and it looks like what you are looking for and a good buy would be this much $. Asking to much? Maybe. I know a lot of you guys know a lot more than I about Lugers. I just want to benefit from that knowledge. Sorry. And thank You.

lugerholsterrepair · 06-30-2006, 12:42 AM

Sean, There were two very respectable Lugers offered on this very Forum in the last few days. One a 6" with a new barrel. Neither of them reblued as I recall. One at 1000 and one at 750.
Just as an aside, shortening Herr Lugers name to lug is sure to be irritating to others as well as myself. This is a great and famous man who deserves our respect. I have as little time as anyone I know to contribute to this Forum and the many eMails I recieve asking my sage advice. I shorten nothing for which I hold high regard, especially concerning Herr Luger and my fellow Forum members. But, that's just me.
Thanks! Jerry Burney

Take a look here for a smokin deal...

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8088

lugerluser · 06-30-2006, 10:25 AM

Jerry, Very sorry for the Lug thing (sorry, did it again), I have only been on this site for a very short time, and have seen it numerus times! I just thought that was how it was done. Just trying to fit in. My mistake. I am learning. Certainly did not what to offend. It would seem to me that man does deserve more rescect that that. I have the same problem with "X-mas" And Jerry, if you see any other Lugers that you think I would enjoy, let me know, Please! Thanks, Sean
[email protected]

lugerluser · 06-30-2006, 10:29 AM

If the man deserves respect, i should at least spell correctly! Sean.....

Edward Tinker · 07-02-2006, 11:53 PM

hmmm, I have not noticed the "lug" thing. Mag yes for magazine, but not lug? If folks say lug they are refering to a part of the gun and not Georg Luger... Or I'll ban them and be done with him.

Ed

sambuscemi · 07-04-2006, 12:21 AM

Ed: Could he have noticed the term "stock lug" and confused it to mean luger??? A passing thought.

Edward Tinker · 07-04-2006, 12:27 AM

I think so too Sam

lugerluser · 07-04-2006, 02:15 PM

I TOLD YOU GUYS I KNEW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT LUGERS! Sean

Edward Tinker · 07-04-2006, 02:20 PM

I think we were trying to NICELY help you out by pointing out that you might have made a mistake. We were not dogging you out, but that it could be a mistake that ANYONE could make.

Relax, cool down...

lugerluser · 07-04-2006, 11:24 PM

Forgot to take the capital lock off, sorry. Not upset at all, just wish this gun would sell so i can buy a Luger. Thanks Sean,

lugerluser · 07-12-2006, 10:01 AM

Ok Guys, I sold a couple guns! Time to buy my first Luger! If you look up top, you will see what I THINK I am looking for. I found a couple on gunbroker: 51933836 & 52289140. I don't understand the reason the mags do not have wooden bottoms. Is this correct? I think both want $1300 for them, A little out of my range. Does anyone know of a good buy on a all matching (except mag) 98% shooter out there? When I say shooter, maybe 20, 30 rounds a year. Not much. Thanks Guys!

lugerholsterrepair · 07-12-2006, 10:36 AM

Sean, Have some patience. Several excellent shooters have appeared recently, more will possibly appear. Don't jump in without some intelligent questions. An all matching 98% shooter is going to be expensive. A pistol with 85% blue still looks pretty nice. Jerry Burney

06-08-2006, 06:10 PM	#1
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I Need Help! Like I said, I need help. New to forum's, And way new to Lugers. I have been buying & selling guns for years. Mostly 1911's. For the last 10 years, I have allways loved Lugers from afar. Never knew about them so never bought one. hk's, sig's, colts, glocks, les baer's, wilsons, I have had them all. THEN i got married! Where the hell did my gun $ go? THEN, kids! So needless to say my priorties changed. So have my tastes. I now have to sell a gun or two, to get one. Now selling guns that i have no passion for. And buying guns that mean something. I just sold a few, and bought an M-1 Garand, a High Standard .22, A Belgium Browning Trap gun & a Carbine. You know what, I like having Good old guns that look good, i can shoot, interesting & might be worth more $ later. So I am selling a couple of Kimbers on gun broker, and buying my first Luger. You know what i know about Lugers NOTHING! Well a little. I know what I THINK i want. Military or Commercial i don't know. I know i want a shooter, well, a gun some collecters would not shoot, but i would. Only about 20 to 50 rounds a year. 95 & up blueing, ALL matching numbers even the Mag. Something with a little history. And will gain value. At least a little. My budget will be about $1,000. A little more little less. Depends on my Kimber sales. Is this possible? I was going to buy on Gunbroker, till i read on here, Not to buy a Luger on an Auction site. So Guys, what do i do, were to buy. I want a great Luger for a great price. Doesn't everyone! Help! Thanks, Guys!

06-08-2006, 06:17 PM	#2
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	In the condition you want,and the price you wish to pay. I wish you luck. Mismatched shooters are going for between $500-$650. I'm not saying you will never find one- I'm just saying for a 95% + pistol you may have to add another $1000. __________________ Dave

06-08-2006, 06:20 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	LL, I suspect your budget is a tad short for 95% all matching with a matching mag. Generally an honest pistol in this catagory is going to start at $1300 to 2300. The matching mag is what kicks your dream in the head. You could probably find what you are looking for in this price range without the matched mag. Have patience and keep beating the bushes. Most dealers will have pistols priced high, auctions are good if you ask enough questions and find an honest seller. Mostly this is a collector board so it is difficult to pry any pistols like this away from us. We are looking for them too! Good to try though, never know when someone is willing to give up something . Welcome to the Luger Forum, glad to have you! Jerry Burney You might look at Joe Salters site for some examples... http://www.joesalter.com/index.html __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-09-2006, 10:01 AM	#6
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You guys are great, I am Learning! Keep 'em coming! Thanks! __________________ "GOD IS!"

06-29-2006, 03:48 PM	#7
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok Guys! close to selling some guns, so very close to buying that first Luger. I have been looking for a shooter, and I am thinking I would like to have a "reblued" nice looking "matching" Luger. #51355068 is a luger on gunbroker. This looks like what I would want. I think. This is from someone who has NO lug history! What do you think? I want a good deal! Point me in the right direction! Sell me one or something. I hate not knowing what I am talking about! Anyway, thanks. __________________ "GOD IS!"

06-09-2006, 03:02 AM	#4
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	I'm sure a number of the members of this forum (including me) could supply a decent matching Luger in the $1000 range, but definitely not if you insist on the matching mag. Lugers with matching mags are definitely desired by collectors, and that's what drives the price up.

06-09-2006, 07:08 AM	#5
Bob in OH User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NE OH Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Not to be cynical, but if your knowledge of lugs is low you might find a P08 with renumbed mag. Be careful, as some mags have been ground and renumbered and the unwary might be tricked. I saw a collection of about 6 lugs and 5 had bogus mags. The seller/dealer had no idea. Just be mindful when you look at that mag. Good luck on the hunt...

06-29-2006, 04:26 PM	#8
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	This appears to be a rather nice, craftsmanly, older refinish job. Actually, its quite a bit nicer than most every other refinished Luger you see, and comes closer to a restoration (which it is not). I'd be curious to know what the bore is like if I was intending to shoot it. In my opinion its price has reached its value, although if the goal is to have a really nice looking Luger for shooting, and only one, a person might find it worth a premium. I hope the seller hasn't set his reserve unrealistically high. If you get it, in the long run you will probably find yourself wanting to have the small parts properly strawed. Also, consider that the magazine is not proper for the gun, and certainly useless for reliable shooting. You will certainly need other magazines, and may find that you want a proper wood-bottomed authentic magazine for display purposes. A very intriguing rework, thanks very much for pointing it out. And good luck with it or whatever other Luger you decide on, be sure to let us know. --Dwight

06-29-2006, 05:14 PM	#9
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Dwight. I don't think I will have the $ in time to bid on that one. Just wanted to let you know what i am looking for. And if that was alright. I don't know what strawed means, and i don't want a lug that will not be reliable ( to a point). My budget will be somewhere around $1000. I guess what I am asking for is to be told, hay have this gun or saw this gun on so & so and it looks like what you are looking for and a good buy would be this much $. Asking to much? Maybe. I know a lot of you guys know a lot more than I about Lugers. I just want to benefit from that knowledge. Sorry. And thank You. __________________ "GOD IS!"

06-30-2006, 12:42 AM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Sean, There were two very respectable Lugers offered on this very Forum in the last few days. One a 6" with a new barrel. Neither of them reblued as I recall. One at 1000 and one at 750. Just as an aside, shortening Herr Lugers name to lug is sure to be irritating to others as well as myself. This is a great and famous man who deserves our respect. I have as little time as anyone I know to contribute to this Forum and the many eMails I recieve asking my sage advice. I shorten nothing for which I hold high regard, especially concerning Herr Luger and my fellow Forum members. But, that's just me. Thanks! Jerry Burney Take a look here for a smokin deal... http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8088 __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-30-2006, 10:25 AM	#11
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jerry, Very sorry for the Lug thing (sorry, did it again), I have only been on this site for a very short time, and have seen it numerus times! I just thought that was how it was done. Just trying to fit in. My mistake. I am learning. Certainly did not what to offend. It would seem to me that man does deserve more rescect that that. I have the same problem with "X-mas" And Jerry, if you see any other Lugers that you think I would enjoy, let me know, Please! Thanks, Sean [email protected] __________________ "GOD IS!"

06-30-2006, 10:29 AM	#12
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If the man deserves respect, i should at least spell correctly! Sean..... __________________ "GOD IS!"

07-02-2006, 11:53 PM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	hmmm, I have not noticed the "lug" thing. Mag yes for magazine, but not lug? If folks say lug they are refering to a part of the gun and not Georg Luger... Or I'll ban them and be done with him. Ed

07-04-2006, 12:21 AM	#14
sambuscemi User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 192 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	Ed: Could he have noticed the term "stock lug" and confused it to mean luger??? A passing thought.

07-04-2006, 12:27 AM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	I think so too Sam

07-04-2006, 02:15 PM	#16
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I TOLD YOU GUYS I KNEW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT LUGERS! Sean __________________ "GOD IS!"

07-04-2006, 02:20 PM	#17
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	I think we were trying to NICELY help you out by pointing out that you might have made a mistake. We were not dogging you out, but that it could be a mistake that ANYONE could make. Relax, cool down...

07-04-2006, 11:24 PM	#18
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Forgot to take the capital lock off, sorry. Not upset at all, just wish this gun would sell so i can buy a Luger. Thanks Sean, __________________ "GOD IS!"

07-12-2006, 10:01 AM	#19
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok Guys, I sold a couple guns! Time to buy my first Luger! If you look up top, you will see what I THINK I am looking for. I found a couple on gunbroker: 51933836 & 52289140. I don't understand the reason the mags do not have wooden bottoms. Is this correct? I think both want $1300 for them, A little out of my range. Does anyone know of a good buy on a all matching (except mag) 98% shooter out there? When I say shooter, maybe 20, 30 rounds a year. Not much. Thanks Guys! __________________ "GOD IS!"

07-12-2006, 10:36 AM	#20
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Sean, Have some patience. Several excellent shooters have appeared recently, more will possibly appear. Don't jump in without some intelligent questions. An all matching 98% shooter is going to be expensive. A pistol with 85% blue still looks pretty nice. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."