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Thor · 08-19-2001, 01:14 AM

Found this on a Luger barrel! What do you make of it? ~Thor~

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/BEagle.jpg

BILL · 08-19-2001, 03:07 AM

That is an unusual eagle. I haven't seen it before (and I just went through Costanzo's chapter 'Evolution of the Eagle' and it is not listed. He lists over 223 different eagle proofs and there are several that are very close (Simpson/Erfurt military reworks).

Big Norm · 08-19-2001, 04:34 AM

I don't know squat about the eagle. But I really wonder how the heck you got such a great picture of it.

Big Norm

SteveM · 08-19-2001, 08:50 AM

Looks similar to the eagle that you find on some Sneaks. What model luger is this?

SteveM

08-19-2001, 09:56 AM

I agree, it looks similar to the eagle on the barrel of my sneek police. It appears below the tp mark on the right side of the barrel.

JJV

Thor · 08-19-2001, 10:33 AM

I think you hit it on the head, I found similar ones on 1929 DWMS in Still! It was found on a Double Date DWM and all we can think is the barrel was replaced and stamped with this eagle circa 1930? ~Thor~

Thor · 08-19-2001, 10:38 AM

Here is the rest of the picture!! ~Thor~

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/DSCN1650.JPG

Marvin · 08-19-2001, 11:13 AM

Ted,

The barrel has the RC/Crown on it also, so would this still be the original barrel and just has a Weimar rework stamp?

Marvin

08-19-2001, 01:04 PM

On my 29 sneek, it has a simalar eagle as noted before, the police tp mark and what is really unusual is a stick eagle 135 on the top which would indicate the gun was back at Mauser around late 41/42??

Hugh · 08-19-2001, 01:51 PM

Hey, I've got one of those too, but don't remember which gun it is on! Will check when I get home Wednesday.

SteveM · 08-19-2001, 02:02 PM

It is a Simpson rework eagle. Found on some sneaks and reworks during the Weimar era.

Steve

MikeP · 08-19-2001, 03:56 PM

I have a 1939 S/42 which has this eagle on the right side ofthe barrel and thr right side of the reciever next to two eagles over 63-one has a bigger 63.

Mark McMorrow · 08-19-2001, 04:08 PM

Me too - on my 1937 S/42. Looks like the same eagle (though not as large as Thor's eagle) to the right of two eagles over 63s and again on the right side of the barrel.

Rick K · 08-19-2001, 07:52 PM

Rick K · 08-19-2001, 08:31 PM

Thor · 08-19-2001, 09:07 PM

Of course from the Double Date picture you figured it out that it wasnt your Pistol. The one on your pistol is larger than Marvins and it appears to be cut in after it was blued and not as uniform looking as Marvins double date. Anyway me attention to the Luger you refer to is coming up and as remember you decided to have this marking removed! Have you changed your mind and want to keep it? Just curious! Thor

Rick K · 08-19-2001, 10:39 PM

No, my original decision stands. That's the thing, I couldn't tell from the picture how big it was (the proof) but it darn sure looked familiar.

Thor · 08-20-2001, 01:11 AM

Here is your's Rick, a BEFORE picture! ~Thor~

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/RKBeagle.jpg

BILL · 08-21-2001, 01:18 AM

Wot a nice little birdie..since it is part of the history..well, it's not my pistol, but I wouldn't mind a bird like that sitting on my barrel (good luck, eagle).

gerard · 08-22-2001, 05:47 PM

Your eagle proof is probably this one.

All those proof drawings are shown in the just issue Ebook :

The Luger Producers

Here is the complete ebook list :

http://users.skynet.be/HL-Editions/ebook/liste01.htm

H&L Publishing

http://users.skynet.be/HL-Editions/ebook/eagle01.jpg

08-19-2001, 01:14 AM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Barrel Proof Found this on a Luger barrel! What do you make of it? ~Thor~ http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/BEagle.jpg

08-19-2001, 03:07 AM	#2
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Barrel Proof That is an unusual eagle. I haven't seen it before (and I just went through Costanzo's chapter 'Evolution of the Eagle' and it is not listed. He lists over 223 different eagle proofs and there are several that are very close (Simpson/Erfurt military reworks).

08-19-2001, 04:34 AM	#3
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Barrel Proof I don't know squat about the eagle. But I really wonder how the heck you got such a great picture of it. Big Norm

08-19-2001, 08:50 AM	#4
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Barrel Proof Looks similar to the eagle that you find on some Sneaks. What model luger is this? SteveM

08-19-2001, 09:56 AM	#5
JJV Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Barrel Proof I agree, it looks similar to the eagle on the barrel of my sneek police. It appears below the tp mark on the right side of the barrel. JJV

08-19-2001, 10:33 AM	#6
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Barrel Proof I think you hit it on the head, I found similar ones on 1929 DWMS in Still! It was found on a Double Date DWM and all we can think is the barrel was replaced and stamped with this eagle circa 1930? ~Thor~

08-19-2001, 10:38 AM	#7
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Barrel Proof Here is the rest of the picture!! ~Thor~ http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/DSCN1650.JPG

08-19-2001, 11:13 AM	#8
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Barrel Proof Ted, The barrel has the RC/Crown on it also, so would this still be the original barrel and just has a Weimar rework stamp? Marvin

08-19-2001, 01:04 PM	#9
JJV Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Barrel Proof On my 29 sneek, it has a simalar eagle as noted before, the police tp mark and what is really unusual is a stick eagle 135 on the top which would indicate the gun was back at Mauser around late 41/42??

08-19-2001, 01:51 PM	#10
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Barrel Proof Hey, I've got one of those too, but don't remember which gun it is on! Will check when I get home Wednesday.

08-19-2001, 02:02 PM	#11
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Barrel Proof It is a Simpson rework eagle. Found on some sneaks and reworks during the Weimar era. Steve

08-19-2001, 03:56 PM	#12
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Re: Barrel Proof I have a 1939 S/42 which has this eagle on the right side ofthe barrel and thr right side of the reciever next to two eagles over 63-one has a bigger 63.

08-19-2001, 04:08 PM	#13
Mark McMorrow User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NE USA Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Barrel Proof Me too - on my 1937 S/42. Looks like the same eagle (though not as large as Thor's eagle) to the right of two eagles over 63s and again on the right side of the barrel.

08-19-2001, 07:52 PM	#14
Rick K User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cochran, GA Posts: 305 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ted! That's my pistol, isn't it? or is it? (EOM)

08-19-2001, 08:31 PM	#15
Rick K User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cochran, GA Posts: 305 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OK, I figured out it's not. Nevermind. (EOM)

08-19-2001, 09:07 PM	#16
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Ted! That's my pistol, isn't it? or is it? Of course from the Double Date picture you figured it out that it wasnt your Pistol. The one on your pistol is larger than Marvins and it appears to be cut in after it was blued and not as uniform looking as Marvins double date. Anyway me attention to the Luger you refer to is coming up and as remember you decided to have this marking removed! Have you changed your mind and want to keep it? Just curious! Thor

08-19-2001, 10:39 PM	#17
Rick K User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cochran, GA Posts: 305 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ted! That's my pistol, isn't it? or is it? No, my original decision stands. That's the thing, I couldn't tell from the picture how big it was (the proof) but it darn sure looked familiar.

08-20-2001, 01:11 AM	#18
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Rick's Barrel Eagle Here is your's Rick, a BEFORE picture! ~Thor~ http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/RKBeagle.jpg

08-21-2001, 01:18 AM	#19
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Rick's Barrel Eagle Wot a nice little birdie..since it is part of the history..well, it's not my pistol, but I wouldn't mind a bird like that sitting on my barrel (good luck, eagle).

08-22-2001, 05:47 PM	#20
gerard User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 35 Times in 23 Posts	Here is your Barrel Proof Your eagle proof is probably this one. All those proof drawings are shown in the just issue Ebook : The Luger Producers Here is the complete ebook list : http://users.skynet.be/HL-Editions/ebook/liste01.htm H&L Publishing http://users.skynet.be/HL-Editions/ebook/eagle01.jpg