Mauser shotgun

Steinar · 05-24-2007, 03:30 PM

From the very bottom of my closet, I have a strange dust collecting shotgun/rifle.
It's no big coconut in my eyes, and I wish it was a rifle instead..

Anyway, it has never gone bang in my hands, as I have better alternatives too chose from when hunting. Also heard that it might be dangerous..

But now I'm thinking of trying it, and perhaps use ut for duck hunting in the fall..

What do you guys think? ..good to go with mild loads? And what can be the story behind this type of shotgun?

Steinar · 05-25-2007, 08:55 AM

I did some Googelig after I posted the pictures, and found two sites with some good information. Sorry for beeing a little lazy..

( http://ltgoodlife.com/features/JohnG/1/GEHA.htm and http://p102.ezboard.com/fparallaxscu...icID=291.topic )

I thought it was a ww1 rifle converted somewhere in the 40-50s, but instead it turnes out to be converted sometime between the wars by a company called Remo.
Some say it's safe to use, others not.. So at this point I will not try to shoot with it.
However, I found nothing about on the 'D.R.P.A' marking and I think it is strange that is has so few ww1 markings

Vlim · 05-25-2007, 11:07 AM

Hi Steinar,

Some additional info from my old catalogs:

Remo was the factory mark for Gebr. Rempt Jagdwaffenfabrik in Suhl, established 1865. They made all sorts of hunting rifles including a .22lr version, a 3-5 shot version for different types of rimless cartridges and a 2-shot size 12, 16 or 20 version, amongst others. The company was alive and well in 1937 and it also seems to have survived the war, being mentioned in a 1952 catalog. Although the author of the article above has doubts about size 20 shotguns, the catalogs mention they were available.

The conversion of the K98 to a shotgun was patented by the Rempt company in Germany in 1919. It was patented under #328446.

Steinar · 05-26-2007, 12:14 PM

thanks, interesting diagram! Looks almost advanced from the drawing.. but the conversion looks a bit simple and 'rough' on the shotgun I have. But I guess they filled out a need of the time, as hunting shotguns and keeping the wheapon 'industry' rolling

tudorbug · 05-26-2007, 01:23 PM

I wonder if the D.R.P.A. marking refers to a Deutches Reich Patent Document.

Reading from the copy of the patent document provided earlier in this thread,, does Deutches ReichPatentAmt make any sense vis-a-vis these initials on the shotgun?

I have a .22 caliber, bolt action, single shot Mauser ES340 B (and am looking for an ES 350 B) and it has D.R.G. D.R.G.M. which indicate, according to literature, that design aspects of the rifle were protected in German patent rules.

David

David

Ron Smith · 05-27-2007, 10:23 AM

I have seen several GECO marked Mauser conversion shotguns. This is the first one marked REMO that I recall.

This one has the late war Mauser K98 laminated stock and sheet metal furniture. I would think it was made post war.

Vlim · 05-30-2007, 08:23 AM

David,

You are right: D.R.P.A. stands for Deutsches ReichsPatentAmt.
D.R.G.M stands for Deutsches Reich Gebrauchsmuster.

The difference is that the DRPA is a registered patent and must have certain unique qualities to be able to be registered as such.

The DRGM is a protected design and it does not have to have unique qualities or have to be original. It's more a protection of the general look and feel of an object.

05-24-2007, 03:30 PM	#1
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	Mauser shotgun From the very bottom of my closet, I have a strange dust collecting shotgun/rifle. It's no big coconut in my eyes, and I wish it was a rifle instead.. Anyway, it has never gone bang in my hands, as I have better alternatives too chose from when hunting. Also heard that it might be dangerous.. But now I'm thinking of trying it, and perhaps use ut for duck hunting in the fall.. What do you guys think? ..good to go with mild loads? And what can be the story behind this type of shotgun? __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

05-25-2007, 08:55 AM	#2
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	I did some Googelig after I posted the pictures, and found two sites with some good information. Sorry for beeing a little lazy.. ( http://ltgoodlife.com/features/JohnG/1/GEHA.htm and http://p102.ezboard.com/fparallaxscu...icID=291.topic ) I thought it was a ww1 rifle converted somewhere in the 40-50s, but instead it turnes out to be converted sometime between the wars by a company called Remo. Some say it's safe to use, others not.. So at this point I will not try to shoot with it. However, I found nothing about on the 'D.R.P.A' marking and I think it is strange that is has so few ww1 markings __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

05-26-2007, 12:14 PM	#4
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	thanks, interesting diagram! Looks almost advanced from the drawing.. but the conversion looks a bit simple and 'rough' on the shotgun I have. But I guess they filled out a need of the time, as hunting shotguns and keeping the wheapon 'industry' rolling __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

05-27-2007, 10:23 AM	#6
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	I have seen several GECO marked Mauser conversion shotguns. This is the first one marked REMO that I recall. This one has the late war Mauser K98 laminated stock and sheet metal furniture. I would think it was made post war. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

05-25-2007, 11:07 AM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi Steinar, Some additional info from my old catalogs: Remo was the factory mark for Gebr. Rempt Jagdwaffenfabrik in Suhl, established 1865. They made all sorts of hunting rifles including a .22lr version, a 3-5 shot version for different types of rimless cartridges and a 2-shot size 12, 16 or 20 version, amongst others. The company was alive and well in 1937 and it also seems to have survived the war, being mentioned in a 1952 catalog. Although the author of the article above has doubts about size 20 shotguns, the catalogs mention they were available. The conversion of the K98 to a shotgun was patented by the Rempt company in Germany in 1919. It was patented under #328446.

05-26-2007, 01:23 PM	#5
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	I wonder if the D.R.P.A. marking refers to a Deutches Reich Patent Document. Reading from the copy of the patent document provided earlier in this thread,, does Deutches ReichPatentAmt make any sense vis-a-vis these initials on the shotgun? I have a .22 caliber, bolt action, single shot Mauser ES340 B (and am looking for an ES 350 B) and it has D.R.G. D.R.G.M. which indicate, according to literature, that design aspects of the rifle were protected in German patent rules. David David

05-30-2007, 08:23 AM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	David, You are right: D.R.P.A. stands for Deutsches ReichsPatentAmt. D.R.G.M stands for Deutsches Reich Gebrauchsmuster. The difference is that the DRPA is a registered patent and must have certain unique qualities to be able to be registered as such. The DRGM is a protected design and it does not have to have unique qualities or have to be original. It's more a protection of the general look and feel of an object.