Schwob's 1900 American Eagle with VERY COOL holster/stock...

Dok · 09-18-2001, 10:23 PM

has been added to the Owner's Corner. This is a MUST SEE!

09-19-2001, 01:23 AM

I remember seeing a stock holster like this in an old catalog. It is very cool and I thought it was very nice!

Ed

schwob · 09-19-2001, 10:49 PM

Thank you all for your very kind words, Schwob.

09-20-2001, 10:35 AM

It great to see a nice example of one of these again. This American made product first appeared on the market about 1910, before Lugers had stock lugs. The company also made a slightly different style for Colt & S&W revolvers. The last luger one that I owned, I assembled from two not so good ones, so I still have a few spare parts around for both the stocks & grips, if anyone cares. Tom h

lugerholsterrepair · 09-20-2001, 12:34 PM

Schwob, This is one rare and beautiful rig. How is the stock when shooting? It looks a little rough in spots and I was wondering with all that hardware sticking out if it was a pleasure to shoot. Of course it would be a pleasure to shoot because of it's rarity and super style...you know what I mean. Sort of like a technical review in a gun magazine? Let us know! Thanks Jerry

Deaf Smith · 09-23-2001, 09:42 AM

I was just wondering. Is this classified as a ATF "papered" item( background check $200 tax stamp) or is it covered like the other stocked lugers (and brownings, 1911's,broomhandles et al)under curio & Relic statis?

Courious.

Also since my Luger has been nickled would it still have the ability to use a repro shoulder stock? It does have the notch on the frame for one. Again just wondering

Deaf Smith

tony k · 09-24-2001, 02:39 AM

The Ideal shoulder stock has a C&R exemption as long as it is an original stock and is attached to a DWM 1900, 1902 or 1906 American Eagle.

The other Luger exemptions are for original Artilleries with original or repro ARTILLERY stocks and original Navy models with original or repro Navy stocks -- you can't legally put a Navy stock on an Artillery, for instance.

Also exempted are 1920 and 1923 Commercial DWMs with original commercial manufacture Artillery-style stocks; 1902 stocked carbines; and some rare variations with Benke-Thiemann folding stocks (anyone have one of these?).

ATF has never defined exactly how "original" a Luger must be to qualify for the above exemptions -- a mismatched gun would probably be legal, but a "built-up" gun with an artillery barrel and sights on a regular DWM frame would not. An otherwise-qualifying Luger that had been plated would probably be allowed, but to be safe I would get a written ruling from BATF's Tech Branch.

There are NO WWII-vintage Lugers that are legal with shoulder stocks, unless the barrel is also replaced with one more than 16 inches in length, OR you do the paperwork and pay the $200 tax to register the gun as a short-barrelled rifle.

09-18-2001, 10:23 PM	#1
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Schwob's 1900 American Eagle with VERY COOL holster/stock... has been added to the Owner's Corner. This is a MUST SEE!

09-19-2001, 01:23 AM	#2
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Schwob's 1900 American Eagle with VERY COOL holster/stock... I remember seeing a stock holster like this in an old catalog. It is very cool and I thought it was very nice! Ed

09-19-2001, 10:49 PM	#3
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Schwob's 1900 American Eagle with VERY COOL holster/stock... Thank you all for your very kind words, Schwob.

09-20-2001, 10:35 AM	#4
tom h Guest Posts: n/a	Re: IDEAL holster/stock It great to see a nice example of one of these again. This American made product first appeared on the market about 1910, before Lugers had stock lugs. The company also made a slightly different style for Colt & S&W revolvers. The last luger one that I owned, I assembled from two not so good ones, so I still have a few spare parts around for both the stocks & grips, if anyone cares. Tom h

09-20-2001, 12:34 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Re: Schwob's 1900 American Eagle with VERY COOL holster/stock... Schwob, This is one rare and beautiful rig. How is the stock when shooting? It looks a little rough in spots and I was wondering with all that hardware sticking out if it was a pleasure to shoot. Of course it would be a pleasure to shoot because of it's rarity and super style...you know what I mean. Sort of like a technical review in a gun magazine? Let us know! Thanks Jerry

09-23-2001, 09:42 AM	#6
Deaf Smith User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: PA Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Schwob's 1900 American Eagle with VERY COOL holster/stock... I was just wondering. Is this classified as a ATF "papered" item( background check $200 tax stamp) or is it covered like the other stocked lugers (and brownings, 1911's,broomhandles et al)under curio & Relic statis? Courious. Also since my Luger has been nickled would it still have the ability to use a repro shoulder stock? It does have the notch on the frame for one. Again just wondering Deaf Smith

09-24-2001, 02:39 AM	#7
tony k User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 53 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Schwob's 1900 American Eagle with VERY COOL holster/stock... The Ideal shoulder stock has a C&R exemption as long as it is an original stock and is attached to a DWM 1900, 1902 or 1906 American Eagle. The other Luger exemptions are for original Artilleries with original or repro ARTILLERY stocks and original Navy models with original or repro Navy stocks -- you can't legally put a Navy stock on an Artillery, for instance. Also exempted are 1920 and 1923 Commercial DWMs with original commercial manufacture Artillery-style stocks; 1902 stocked carbines; and some rare variations with Benke-Thiemann folding stocks (anyone have one of these?). ATF has never defined exactly how "original" a Luger must be to qualify for the above exemptions -- a mismatched gun would probably be legal, but a "built-up" gun with an artillery barrel and sights on a regular DWM frame would not. An otherwise-qualifying Luger that had been plated would probably be allowed, but to be safe I would get a written ruling from BATF's Tech Branch. There are NO WWII-vintage Lugers that are legal with shoulder stocks, unless the barrel is also replaced with one more than 16 inches in length, OR you do the paperwork and pay the $200 tax to register the gun as a short-barrelled rifle.