Swiss 1900

acastell · 10-24-2007, 11:19 AM

Well, I hate to dig up an old post, but I recently acquired a Swiss 1900 with 3 digit serial number and I thought that I should let you know so you can add the information to your database...

The serial number is 501. I will be happy to take pictures and send them to you...I have the Gun, cleaning tool case, tools (all swiss marked) and the magazine, no markings as stated above, but with wood and polished metal.

I am brand new to this forum as I stumbled across this while researching my purchase...

You can email me direct if you wish at [email protected]- (do not want some email phishing engine to pick up my email)

AC

Ron Wood · 10-24-2007, 12:44 PM

An excellent acquisition! I am an early Luger fan. If you would please go back and look at Dwight Gruber's earlier questions and answer them about your Luger it would be most helpful until we can get some photos posted. I would be glad to have you send the photos to me, but I am out of town and do not have ready access to emails for that purpose. Perhaps you can figure out how to post pictures, it is really quite easy, or one of the other members could lend a hand.
Congratulations on your purchase and I anxiously await further info!
Ron

acastell · 10-24-2007, 01:49 PM

Here is an attempt at uploading a picture...first try

acastell · 10-24-2007, 01:51 PM

another

acastell · 10-24-2007, 01:55 PM

Hope you are not bored yet! Another...

acastell · 10-24-2007, 01:56 PM

Last one...if you need/want other angles, let me know...

Ron Wood · 10-24-2007, 02:19 PM

Very pretty! A nice early military with the Type I thumb safety. It has a relieved frame, which I would have expected. I notice a mark on the loading tool...is it a number or a proof/acceptance mark? How about a pic of the right side of the Luger?
Thanks,
Ron

policeluger · 10-24-2007, 02:32 PM

Ron is not going to sleep tonight....what a beautiful Luger!

acastell · 10-24-2007, 04:51 PM

The mark you see on the tool is a cross...here is a pic of the right side...I am somewhat new to Lugers and aquired this on a trade for a Mauser Sniper and a Martz Luger, so, if you have anymore to say about this piece and it's place in the lineage of Swiss Lugers, as well its "collectablility", I would greatly appreciate it!!!!

MFC · 10-24-2007, 11:11 PM

I think you stole it from a museum.

How about a pic. of the top?
Beautiful photography and a beautiful Luger.
Mike C.

acastell · 10-24-2007, 11:33 PM

Thank you Mike...I am really happy! Here is a pic of the top...

Pete Ebbink · 11-02-2007, 03:05 PM

Hi Andy,

Lovely SN 501 Swiss Luger !

Is there a chance you could post up a close-up of the "polished" area underneath the thumb safety lever. This area will sometimes let us know if the gun is DWM original factory finish or possibly a Bern arsenal rework.

A photo or two of the insides of the frame well would help as well.

BTW...I have a close cousin of your gun...mine is SN 555...both probably made in the 1901-1902 time frame...when 2,000 guns were made in Germany for the Swiss military.

Thanks, and again...congratulations !

p.s. The take-down tool with the swiss cross stamping is not reported used in Switzerland by collectors...most are thought to have been "marked" later to give the impression of a Swiss Ordnance piece.

Here is a close-up view of the stamping on my "Swiss" TD tool...

Edward Tinker · 11-02-2007, 03:21 PM

Welcome to the forum.
Ed

the gunman · 11-02-2007, 04:55 PM

"One Beautyful Rig" Must say I would Kill to own one of these.

John Sabato · 11-02-2007, 05:04 PM

Absolutely breathtaking condition. Congrats and thanks for sharing the photos.

thegundude · 11-02-2007, 06:16 PM

Just gorgeous!!

Could I hold it for a minute? I promise to give it right back...

acastell · 11-10-2007, 09:40 AM

Thank you all for the replies...I was out of town last week and did not have much time to check this post...

11-10-2007, 11:30 AM

WOW! That's a beauty!

pgalloway · 12-10-2007, 07:54 PM

Incredible!

Could one ask how you came by this fantastic find?

acastell · 01-03-2008, 05:12 PM

I am sorry for not keeping up with this thread...I have a local shop who's proprietor is my trusted guide in the world of collectible firearms...he had this piece in his inventory...he agreed to a sale price and I agreed to a buy price...I am sure he made his margin and I know I paid what I felt was a fair price...

I just hope next time he comes across such a piece, he keeps me in mind...I believe that many of the collectible pieces pass through the internal network, never making it to the advertised arenas...

Thank you all for the feedback and comments...a few months past the purchase, I am still thrilled with the piece...

AC

10-24-2007, 12:44 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	An excellent acquisition! I am an early Luger fan. If you would please go back and look at Dwight Gruber's earlier questions and answer them about your Luger it would be most helpful until we can get some photos posted. I would be glad to have you send the photos to me, but I am out of town and do not have ready access to emails for that purpose. Perhaps you can figure out how to post pictures, it is really quite easy, or one of the other members could lend a hand. Congratulations on your purchase and I anxiously await further info! Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-24-2007, 01:49 PM	#3
acastell User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Pictures of Swiss Luger #501 Here is an attempt at uploading a picture...first try Attached Thumbnails

10-24-2007, 01:51 PM	#4
acastell User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	another Attached Thumbnails

10-24-2007, 01:55 PM	#5
acastell User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hope you are not bored yet! Another... Attached Thumbnails

10-24-2007, 01:56 PM	#6
acastell User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Last one...if you need/want other angles, let me know... Attached Thumbnails

10-24-2007, 11:19 AM	#1
acastell User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Well, I hate to dig up an old post, but I recently acquired a Swiss 1900 with 3 digit serial number and I thought that I should let you know so you can add the information to your database... The serial number is 501. I will be happy to take pictures and send them to you...I have the Gun, cleaning tool case, tools (all swiss marked) and the magazine, no markings as stated above, but with wood and polished metal. I am brand new to this forum as I stumbled across this while researching my purchase... You can email me direct if you wish at [email protected]- (do not want some email phishing engine to pick up my email) AC

10-24-2007, 02:19 PM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Very pretty! A nice early military with the Type I thumb safety. It has a relieved frame, which I would have expected. I notice a mark on the loading tool...is it a number or a proof/acceptance mark? How about a pic of the right side of the Luger? Thanks, Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-24-2007, 02:32 PM	#8
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Ron is not going to sleep tonight....what a beautiful Luger!

10-24-2007, 04:51 PM	#9
acastell User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The mark you see on the tool is a cross...here is a pic of the right side...I am somewhat new to Lugers and aquired this on a trade for a Mauser Sniper and a Martz Luger, so, if you have anymore to say about this piece and it's place in the lineage of Swiss Lugers, as well its "collectablility", I would greatly appreciate it!!!! Attached Thumbnails

10-24-2007, 11:11 PM	#10
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	I think you stole it from a museum. How about a pic. of the top? Beautiful photography and a beautiful Luger. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

10-24-2007, 11:33 PM	#11
acastell User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thank you Mike...I am really happy! Here is a pic of the top... Attached Thumbnails

11-02-2007, 03:05 PM	#12
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Andy, Lovely SN 501 Swiss Luger ! Is there a chance you could post up a close-up of the "polished" area underneath the thumb safety lever. This area will sometimes let us know if the gun is DWM original factory finish or possibly a Bern arsenal rework. A photo or two of the insides of the frame well would help as well. BTW...I have a close cousin of your gun...mine is SN 555...both probably made in the 1901-1902 time frame...when 2,000 guns were made in Germany for the Swiss military. Thanks, and again...congratulations ! p.s. The take-down tool with the swiss cross stamping is not reported used in Switzerland by collectors...most are thought to have been "marked" later to give the impression of a Swiss Ordnance piece. Here is a close-up view of the stamping on my "Swiss" TD tool...

11-02-2007, 03:21 PM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Welcome to the forum. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-02-2007, 04:55 PM	#14
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	"One Beautyful Rig" Must say I would Kill to own one of these.

11-02-2007, 05:04 PM	#15
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Absolutely breathtaking condition. Congrats and thanks for sharing the photos. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-02-2007, 06:16 PM	#16
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Just gorgeous!! Could I hold it for a minute? I promise to give it right back... __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

11-10-2007, 09:40 AM	#17
acastell User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thank you all for the replies...I was out of town last week and did not have much time to check this post...

11-10-2007, 11:30 AM	#18
Brad Guest Posts: n/a	WOW! That's a beauty!

12-10-2007, 07:54 PM	#19
pgalloway User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Incredible! Could one ask how you came by this fantastic find?

01-03-2008, 05:12 PM	#20
acastell User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I am sorry for not keeping up with this thread...I have a local shop who's proprietor is my trusted guide in the world of collectible firearms...he had this piece in his inventory...he agreed to a sale price and I agreed to a buy price...I am sure he made his margin and I know I paid what I felt was a fair price... I just hope next time he comes across such a piece, he keeps me in mind...I believe that many of the collectible pieces pass through the internal network, never making it to the advertised arenas... Thank you all for the feedback and comments...a few months past the purchase, I am still thrilled with the piece... AC