Hi, I just inherited my family's Luger collection

StarOfTheWest · 11-29-2007, 07:56 PM

..and I may have a few questions as I try to verify and sort through it.
I was raised with these guns, so I am not new to Lugers, but this is the first time I have had them hands on near a Net connection.

That pic is just the first 1/3 of them.

Thanks all, I look forward to your expertise.

Bluff Lake 36 · 11-29-2007, 08:21 PM

Star Of The West - All I can say is that it is a fantastic collection.. The bottom Luger is the Model 1902 Carbine with the stock and the next up is the Model 1893 Borchardt in 7.63 caliber. These were manufactured by Ludwig Loewe & Co. and after serial # 2000 by DWM. This is the predecessor to the Luger pistol. A very rare pistol. The rest are the Model 1900 Lugers from 1900 until the last made in 1942. It's hard to tell without seeing them and the dates. Would be happy to identify them for you but would need pictures of the markings. Hope this helps a little. Again it is a fantastic collection. Bill

thegundude · 11-29-2007, 08:25 PM

Holy mackeral! Are you related to Ralph Shatuck? Dang, that's a lot of Lugers if it's only the first third...

And welcome to the forums...

StarOfTheWest · 11-29-2007, 08:36 PM

Thanks for the kind words.
No, no relation to Shattuck the Hun.
*smile*

I do know what they all are *supposed* to be, but having perused your forum for a while, I will need some assist on how *correct* they all may be.
You folks have awesome eyes for details, and that is what I will need.

Most are matched of course, and of that first batch, very few refinishes.
Those are the best of the best of the collection, I think.

But as we dig down deeper, I may have some show and tell and some questions about holsters, mags and some very obscure marks.

Ron Smith · 11-29-2007, 09:15 PM

Hello Anna,

Welcome to the forum. This looks to be a quality collection. I'm sure that many of the members will be happy to assist in any way we can. The compensation will be nice clear photos of these beautiful pistols.

Feel free to ask any questions...

BTW, I like your reply to Steve's question.

Ron

Curly1 · 11-29-2007, 09:32 PM

WOW very nice, welcome and you came to the right place for info.

StarOfTheWest · 11-29-2007, 10:24 PM

Many thanks again for the kind welcome.

My last family member to own them was very elderly and in poor health, so it has been a while since some have been maintained.
I used to do them regularly when I still lived in the same city, but it has been quite some time since I moved to another state.
Luckily, it was a dry state that they came from.

I actually grew up hunting these guns at the shows with my folks, back in the 60s.
I started my own small collection of Lugers about 20 years ago, more or less to gain the expertise to handle this lot when it would become mine.

My business is in our high season right now for Christmas, so it might be a few weeks before I can start getting some detailed pics up.

I am just oiling, cleaning and trying to stabilize the collection right now.
Ackkk, some were even stored in holsters.
That has been corrected.
Not much damage though, as far as I can see.
A couple of tiny spots of rust under the grips on a couple, and one, (a re-blued lesser one, thank Dog!), that sat on a holster rivet and got a bit of finish eaten away.

Overall, they are in great shape, considering it might have been 10 years since they were last checked on.
Giving them a nice drink of Hoppe's Gun Oil, (keeping it off the grips of course), doing a field strip, pulling grips and firing pins to clean and look, and promising to get back to them in the New Year.

So if it takes a bit to get back to you all, please understand.
Thanks.

Edward Tinker · 11-29-2007, 11:10 PM

Welcome and don't be hard on folks who forget their lugers in holsters. I have a P38 in a holster, and at least two lugers in holsters, and, well, it is easy to do so...

Any Simson's there I could get info on

Ed

StarOfTheWest · 11-29-2007, 11:12 PM

Edward, there is one Simson, but it will take me a while to get back to it.
I will get you the #s when I do though.

RylanBrissette · 11-30-2007, 12:18 AM

omg... wow!

You planning on sharing those? lol

MFC · 11-30-2007, 12:24 AM

Anna,
You owe me a keyboard. I just got drool all over mine.

This will be fun to watch. Should keep us all entertained (and jealous) for quite a while.
Mike C.

Dwight Gruber · 11-30-2007, 06:58 AM

Anna,

Add my welcome to the Forum, you have a treasure trove there, an enviable collection which we are all anxious to see. We are interested in all the details of every gun.

There are several correspondents here (I am one, but not alone) who are collecting data for research and writing projects. Please be patient with our requests for gun and marking details (including serial numbers).

We will all be more than happy--overjoyed, more like it--to assist you in every way with your questions about your new collection.

--Dwight

the gunman · 11-30-2007, 10:53 AM

All I can say is "CONGRATULATIONS' What a fine collection. Can't wait for you to share all the info.

John Sabato · 11-30-2007, 12:48 PM

Anna ,

Let me add my welcome to the lugerforum and say that we are all anxious to see the details of your family collection... If you require assistance in any way, please let us know. You haven't identified your geographical location, but rest assured that there are members of this forum all over the globe...

We shall wait for further 'eye candy' from you...

Hope your Christmas season is a blessed one.

mauro · 11-30-2007, 01:20 PM

Really nice!
Welcome to the lugerforum

mjgru2001 · 12-01-2007, 03:01 PM

It's only a THIRD of the collection!

<< Matt bangs his head on the desk and sobs like a 6 year old that just fell off his bicycle>>

Congratulations on a fantastic inheritance. =)

vtwoodchuck · 12-01-2007, 03:21 PM

Hi, Nice collection. I"M UP FOR ADOPTION! Doug

paradox998 · 12-01-2007, 11:24 PM

Wow, what more can be said?

Rod WMG · 12-02-2007, 02:53 PM

I'm jealous that you got to grow up with these and that you now own them!

I can't wait for more details.

KDsportster · 12-02-2007, 07:36 PM

Anna,
Will you Marry Me????

11-29-2007, 07:56 PM	#1
StarOfTheWest User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East Texas, CSA Posts: 208 Thanks: 81 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	Hi, I just inherited my family's Luger collection ..and I may have a few questions as I try to verify and sort through it. I was raised with these guns, so I am not new to Lugers, but this is the first time I have had them hands on near a Net connection. That pic is just the first 1/3 of them. Thanks all, I look forward to your expertise.

11-29-2007, 08:25 PM	#3
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Holy mackeral! Are you related to Ralph Shatuck? Dang, that's a lot of Lugers if it's only the first third... And welcome to the forums... __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

11-29-2007, 09:15 PM	#5
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hello Anna, Welcome to the forum. This looks to be a quality collection. I'm sure that many of the members will be happy to assist in any way we can. The compensation will be nice clear photos of these beautiful pistols. Feel free to ask any questions... BTW, I like your reply to Steve's question. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-29-2007, 09:32 PM	#6
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,242 Thanks: 117 Thanked 714 Times in 371 Posts	WOW very nice, welcome and you came to the right place for info. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

11-29-2007, 11:10 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Welcome and don't be hard on folks who forget their lugers in holsters. I have a P38 in a holster, and at least two lugers in holsters, and, well, it is easy to do so... Any Simson's there I could get info on Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-29-2007, 08:21 PM	#2
Bluff Lake 36 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northern Wisconsin Posts: 205 Thanks: 0 Thanked 79 Times in 39 Posts	Star Of The West - All I can say is that it is a fantastic collection.. The bottom Luger is the Model 1902 Carbine with the stock and the next up is the Model 1893 Borchardt in 7.63 caliber. These were manufactured by Ludwig Loewe & Co. and after serial # 2000 by DWM. This is the predecessor to the Luger pistol. A very rare pistol. The rest are the Model 1900 Lugers from 1900 until the last made in 1942. It's hard to tell without seeing them and the dates. Would be happy to identify them for you but would need pictures of the markings. Hope this helps a little. Again it is a fantastic collection. Bill

11-29-2007, 08:36 PM	#4
StarOfTheWest User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East Texas, CSA Posts: 208 Thanks: 81 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	Thanks for the kind words. No, no relation to Shattuck the Hun. smile I do know what they all are supposed to be, but having perused your forum for a while, I will need some assist on how correct they all may be. You folks have awesome eyes for details, and that is what I will need. Most are matched of course, and of that first batch, very few refinishes. Those are the best of the best of the collection, I think. But as we dig down deeper, I may have some show and tell and some questions about holsters, mags and some very obscure marks.

11-29-2007, 10:24 PM	#7
StarOfTheWest User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East Texas, CSA Posts: 208 Thanks: 81 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	Many thanks again for the kind welcome. My last family member to own them was very elderly and in poor health, so it has been a while since some have been maintained. I used to do them regularly when I still lived in the same city, but it has been quite some time since I moved to another state. Luckily, it was a dry state that they came from. I actually grew up hunting these guns at the shows with my folks, back in the 60s. I started my own small collection of Lugers about 20 years ago, more or less to gain the expertise to handle this lot when it would become mine. My business is in our high season right now for Christmas, so it might be a few weeks before I can start getting some detailed pics up. I am just oiling, cleaning and trying to stabilize the collection right now. Ackkk, some were even stored in holsters. That has been corrected. Not much damage though, as far as I can see. A couple of tiny spots of rust under the grips on a couple, and one, (a re-blued lesser one, thank Dog!), that sat on a holster rivet and got a bit of finish eaten away. Overall, they are in great shape, considering it might have been 10 years since they were last checked on. Giving them a nice drink of Hoppe's Gun Oil, (keeping it off the grips of course), doing a field strip, pulling grips and firing pins to clean and look, and promising to get back to them in the New Year. So if it takes a bit to get back to you all, please understand. Thanks.

11-29-2007, 11:12 PM	#9
StarOfTheWest User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East Texas, CSA Posts: 208 Thanks: 81 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	Edward, there is one Simson, but it will take me a while to get back to it. I will get you the #s when I do though.

11-30-2007, 12:18 AM	#10
RylanBrissette User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 189 Thanks: 4 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	omg... wow! You planning on sharing those? lol

11-30-2007, 12:24 AM	#11
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Anna, You owe me a keyboard. I just got drool all over mine. This will be fun to watch. Should keep us all entertained (and jealous) for quite a while. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

11-30-2007, 06:58 AM	#12
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Anna, Add my welcome to the Forum, you have a treasure trove there, an enviable collection which we are all anxious to see. We are interested in all the details of every gun. There are several correspondents here (I am one, but not alone) who are collecting data for research and writing projects. Please be patient with our requests for gun and marking details (including serial numbers). We will all be more than happy--overjoyed, more like it--to assist you in every way with your questions about your new collection. --Dwight

11-30-2007, 10:53 AM	#13
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	All I can say is "CONGRATULATIONS' What a fine collection. Can't wait for you to share all the info.

11-30-2007, 12:48 PM	#14
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Anna , Let me add my welcome to the lugerforum and say that we are all anxious to see the details of your family collection... If you require assistance in any way, please let us know. You haven't identified your geographical location, but rest assured that there are members of this forum all over the globe... We shall wait for further 'eye candy' from you... Hope your Christmas season is a blessed one. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-30-2007, 01:20 PM	#15
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Really nice! Welcome to the lugerforum __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

12-01-2007, 03:01 PM	#16
mjgru2001 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 9 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's only a THIRD of the collection! << Matt bangs his head on the desk and sobs like a 6 year old that just fell off his bicycle>> Congratulations on a fantastic inheritance. =) __________________ "When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs. When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent. When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun. Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all." -Tim Freeman

12-01-2007, 03:21 PM	#17
vtwoodchuck User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Morrisville, Vermont Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Hi, Nice collection. I"M UP FOR ADOPTION! Doug __________________ Doug

12-01-2007, 11:24 PM	#18
paradox998 User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Florida Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow, what more can be said?

12-02-2007, 02:53 PM	#19
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm jealous that you got to grow up with these and that you now own them! I can't wait for more details.

12-02-2007, 07:36 PM	#20
KDsportster User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NewJersey Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Anna, Will you Marry Me????