Luger Jamming

admiral1960 · 12-14-2007, 06:09 PM

Hi

I have a 1916 Luger that has feeding problems with afull clip and down to where there are 4-5 rounds remaining.

This happens with commercial loads. When operating the slide it is very hard to pull back with a full magazine.

This happens with the magazine that came with the gun and a reproduction that I bought .

Any Thoughts ?

Vlim · 12-14-2007, 06:44 PM

Hi,

What sort of problems. Do the rounds get stuck, do they stovepipe, etc..?

admiral1960 · 12-14-2007, 07:41 PM

With full magazine the rounds are picked up by the bolt, start to move forward, tilt slightly up and jam against the throat.

As the magazine empties it feeds better but occasionally the link will stop moving forward leaving action open about a quarter of an inch. The link is slightly bowed at this time - not all the way flat..

With my aging eyes it is still fairly accurate.

MikeP · 12-14-2007, 08:08 PM

A new mainspring would not hurt anything.
I have a original '37 doing the same.
It is common to have this problem with bent mag lips, but the mainspring will go, sometimes and you have tried other mags.
They are inexpensive and there is research info here on them.

azlaw · 12-14-2007, 09:16 PM

Try another mag before you blame the pistol. 90% (unscientific made up figure on my part, but probably close) of autoloader feed problems are due to the magazine.

H

admiral1960 · 12-15-2007, 01:06 AM

WILCO on the spring and I will find a third mag to try.

You all have a Merry Christmas !!!!

Sieger · 12-15-2007, 10:10 PM

Hi:

Here is where to start looking:

Ammo is too short. With round nose ammo, it should be no shorter that 1.169 inches.

Ammo too hot for springs in your Luger.

Ammo too cold for springs in your Luger.

Mag spring worn out.

Main Spring out of spec.

Good luck!

Sieger

lugerholsterrepair · 12-15-2007, 10:39 PM

I agree with Henry. I would try another mag or two. I suspect the feed lips are spread. The strong mag spring has great pressure fully loaded. I would try to find a Mec Gar mag. If it does the same thing explore other areas but not untill you try another quality mag.
Jerry Burney

12-14-2007, 06:09 PM	#1
admiral1960 User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Covington, WA Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 6 Posts	Luger Jamming Hi I have a 1916 Luger that has feeding problems with afull clip and down to where there are 4-5 rounds remaining. This happens with commercial loads. When operating the slide it is very hard to pull back with a full magazine. This happens with the magazine that came with the gun and a reproduction that I bought . Any Thoughts ? __________________ seeking "Trigger Sideplate"for 1916 DWM with 04 SN Allen Michler AW1, USNR-R (10 yrs) LTC, TC, USAR (29 yrs)

12-14-2007, 07:41 PM	#3
admiral1960 User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Covington, WA Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 6 Posts	With full magazine the rounds are picked up by the bolt, start to move forward, tilt slightly up and jam against the throat. As the magazine empties it feeds better but occasionally the link will stop moving forward leaving action open about a quarter of an inch. The link is slightly bowed at this time - not all the way flat.. With my aging eyes it is still fairly accurate. __________________ seeking "Trigger Sideplate"for 1916 DWM with 04 SN Allen Michler AW1, USNR-R (10 yrs) LTC, TC, USAR (29 yrs)

12-15-2007, 01:06 AM	#6
admiral1960 User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Covington, WA Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 6 Posts	WILCO on the spring and I will find a third mag to try. You all have a Merry Christmas !!!! __________________ seeking "Trigger Sideplate"for 1916 DWM with 04 SN Allen Michler AW1, USNR-R (10 yrs) LTC, TC, USAR (29 yrs)

12-15-2007, 10:39 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	I agree with Henry. I would try another mag or two. I suspect the feed lips are spread. The strong mag spring has great pressure fully loaded. I would try to find a Mec Gar mag. If it does the same thing explore other areas but not untill you try another quality mag. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-14-2007, 06:44 PM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi, What sort of problems. Do the rounds get stuck, do they stovepipe, etc..?

12-14-2007, 08:08 PM	#4
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	A new mainspring would not hurt anything. I have a original '37 doing the same. It is common to have this problem with bent mag lips, but the mainspring will go, sometimes and you have tried other mags. They are inexpensive and there is research info here on them.

12-14-2007, 09:16 PM	#5
azlaw User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 204 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Try another mag before you blame the pistol. 90% (unscientific made up figure on my part, but probably close) of autoloader feed problems are due to the magazine. H

12-15-2007, 10:10 PM	#7
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	Hi: Here is where to start looking: Ammo is too short. With round nose ammo, it should be no shorter that 1.169 inches. Ammo too hot for springs in your Luger. Ammo too cold for springs in your Luger. Mag spring worn out. Main Spring out of spec. Good luck! Sieger