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04-08-2008, 10:24 AM | #1 |
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Toy Lugers in general.
I remember as a kid (mid-50's) I had a Luger see through water pistol. Did not take long for me to break off it's trigger, darn. I was surprized to see a new one almost just like it the other day in a store for sale in many colors! This one is safer, it had the red plastic barrel cap.???? I have seen other Luger toy guns in the past. Anyone here ever collected these toy Lugers? My wife and I go to quite a few flea markets and antique group shops. I have seen quite a few, though not all to scale and exact in detail. I though of buying them, but never have. I just might start. I guess they would go well with the scale models of the real Model A town Sedan I have. The most costly toy Luger I recall ( not counting these new airsoft Lugers) was a clear "glass" not plastic Luger filled with it's original candy. Asking price was $100. Wonder what era this was made, maybe the 50's? So has anyone collected these?
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Hey there Bill, interesting question. I surely imagine there would still be alot of those sorts of things out there, and for the rarer, good ones, prices would be substantially higher than most other varieties, as is anything Luger. I have not collected any myself, but on the topic of 'toy' lugers, i'm currently mucking around with a full metal replica luger, that my nephew has asked i fix up for him. Not a bad replica, strips in the same basic manner as the original and he wants it as a WW2 era pistol, so it's copping the correct wooden grips, proper mag/end, markings etc. It's coming along quite well and should be good when done, i've actually seen people collect these types of things. If you're a complete Luger fanatic and have your eyes on some, go for it mate! Something for the collection and if they take your interests, why not?!
The candy filled one you mentioned - i'm going to take a stab in the dark and say 60's? Blake
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scroll down a bit on this thread, and you will find two I proudly own; http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...&highlight=toy
..so easy to be carried away when collecting something!
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>>i'm going to take a stab in the dark and say 60's?
The Luger was embedded in popular culture at the time. I recall that as a child in the 1960s and early 1970s, Lugers figured prominently in the toy pistol market. In addition to the ubiquitous cap pistols and squirt guns, I recall that a GI Joe pistol was partially modeled on the Luger, and that they appeared in episodes of Jonny Quest (maybe someone here has some still images). I recall a BB gun too. And forbidden dime novel spys carried them - Nick Carter (a.k.a. "Killmaster") carried a Luger called Wilhelmina (and scored massively with chicks as a result, no doubt). It was a big deal if so-and-so's father/grandfather had a Real Luger at home. H |
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Collectors in Japan & Taiwan even use full metal replicas to study Lugers. A few guys even published some research articles on real Lugers based on those replicas. Very impressive. Of course, the main body of information came from various sources, but those replica gives people some feeling of the gun. Those replicas (zinc made?) copied the detail down to the inspector marks and test proofs.
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You're not wrong there, its a good base for study, to a point though. I've often found myself looking over the one i have here at the moment, while reading up and studying my books. But some of the major attention is only skin deep...........
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Went, I too picked up a few of these PO8 look=alikes at the drumstore in the 1970s. I currently have 4 different size or color "squire guns" all new in the original packaging, cost me $1 to $3 each. 3 different style plastic cap guns and 3 (including one P38) that are spring action and fire plastic projectiles. Lugerdoc
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Hello Doc,
I will keep a eye out for those. I think I will pick up the Luger toys when I come across them in the future. I have been giving thought to getting one of the Airsoft Lugers. I guess they have been made by various makers. Not sure if any one is better than the other. Will give a report when I buy one. Bill |
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Jasta;
I know our friend Tac here in this forum have one, or at least had one. Perhaps he can share some light on these airsofts and where to get one? Been thinking of the same myself. Perhaps they be used for training? Quite pricey toys..
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Bill, i havn't seen or had much to do with the airsoft versions or any other replicas, but i have in the past come across one by the maker of 'Marushin" they come in 4 inch barrel, another size, or artillery version, and are the most highly detailed models i've ever seen. They are a gorgeous looking gold finish, real wood grips, markings, take and cycle dummy rounds, and strip EXACTLY like the real thing. Cheap too, i wouldn't mind one myself to be honest. They don't fire anything however
Lugerdoc, i remember those plastic projectile ones! I used to have an M1911 or a Beretta one. Was so long ago, as a kid, can't even remember which it was! I should try and find it actually, i'm sure it's here somewhere unless it was given away in my teen years
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Went, You probably bought yours, like I did, mail order @$5 from an ad it a comic book. TH
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Hehe, memories huh?! I used to buy model kits and cards that way. I remember like it was yesterday, buying it over the counter at a toy shop, at a local Kmart, back in the day where you could buy BB's, caps and firecrackers at the local mall. Now you can't even buy a replica without a full gun license! Uh, how times do change. I had just gotten some birthday money from my Aunty, and i insisted on spending it straight away. My Aunty, Mother and myself went in there and i bought the gun, a little parachuting bomb cap set and a toy truck. Driving me mad, i cannot remember what type it was, i know i've still got the truck, i saw it the other day while ''digging through the archives'' as i call it
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Toy Lugers
Greetings, Ladies & Gentlemen,
Since no one else is, I will post photos of two of my toy Lugers. First one I had was a Tanaka, Navy model. Heavy weight ABS plastic. Looks good, though. Uses 134 gas. .2 gram BB at about 250 fps. Magazine holds twelve BB's. Upon firing the toggle blows back, on return loads next BB into chamber ready for next trigger pull. Toggle stays back when magazine is empty. Works and field strips just like the real ones. Wife and I keep the cats out of our back yard with it. Photo of Tanaka Navy over my DWM Artillery. Just got this one. It is a WE LP08 Artillery. All metal. Weighs over two pounds. Uses Green gas. .2 gram BB at 380 fps. Magazine holds fifteen BB's. Works great. Haven't fired it for accuracy yet. Been raining for the last two days. If you would like some specific photos, let me know. I have my camera set up at the present time.
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Hey Ralph, don't mix up those Lugers! There are many cat owners here in this forum, don't want a cat killer amoung us Where do you get them? ..they fire plastic balls right?
It was quite common with Luger water pistols here in norway also, especially back in the 70's. Perhaps beside the point, but I have three series of dictionarys (you know these books we used before the internet? ), they are from the 40's, 50's and 80's. Looking up on the word 'pistol' they all come up with a picture of a Luger. Not as a curiosity or a collectable item, just as a description on how a pistol looked like. Same with these water pistols I quess.
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Pretty nice there Ralph, i like! Do they have working safetys?
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Greetings,
They shoot 6mm round plastic balls that are as hard as rocks. Will shoot through a soda pop can. The safeties on both pistols work like the real ones. When safety is down, a flat bar rises to block the sear bar from pivoting outward. The sights adjust like the real ones too. The Tanaka is made in Japan and cost over $200.00. The WE is made in China and cost about $120.00.
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Greetings, tac,
I somehow missed that thread. Looked it up and found it was quite interesting. I apologize, for what I'm not sure. Seems this is twice I have caused your shorts to be twisted. Once on another board and now here. Please forgive me and let's be friends.
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