Need help identifying this luger

calvarius · 01-15-2009, 02:02 AM

Hi I'm new to this forum,

Some guy is trying to sell me this gun, he says that this type of gun was made as a gift for exceptional service to nazi officials. He claims that there a very few of them made.

Nazi symbols all all over the gun, mainly on the grips (as you can hardly see on the picture), he's asking for $4500, please let me know what do you think.

It all started to sound like a scam when he said that the gun comes with it's original case made out of human skin from concentration camps!

Or maybe I'm looking at an exceptional pice of human history?

Ron Wood · 01-15-2009, 02:37 AM

You are looking at an exceptional piece of BS. I'm sorry, I usually do not use that kind of language, but given those atrocious claims I am at a loss for proper terminology. The whole tale told by the seller is a pack of lies. The gun is barely worth $450 let alone $4500.

policeluger · 01-15-2009, 03:44 AM

Would you really want something made of human skin......not in my collection.

Steinar · 01-15-2009, 03:50 AM

I beleve you may have found the worst possible way to start owning/collecting luger(s) Calvarius.

Total lack of dignity from the seller serving you a lie like that for the profit of money.
Human skin.. please give him/her a brief historical summary of the last century before you walk away.

alanint · 01-15-2009, 07:17 AM

Good God!

We've reached new lows in the gun sellings biz!

Ingvarg · 01-15-2009, 08:57 AM

Go tell the seller to put this "Luger" and the nazi symbols where the sun wont shine, (Sorry the laguage but this is a real fraud)

Then go and spend your $4500 on a real collective Luger. You can even have a really nice one for less than $4500, and you will enjoy it a lot more than this one.
There are lot of members here more than willing to help you out finding the right one and giving a good advise, but please dont even think about this one..............Well... maybe for $450.....maybe

calvarius · 01-15-2009, 10:18 AM

Thanks to everybody you've just saved me a ton of money. Can somebody explain what we're looking at?

Edward Tinker · 01-15-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by calvarius

Thanks to everybody you've just saved me a ton of money. Can somebody explain what we're looking at?

I can see only one picture; you are looking at a luger that was nickled or chromed post war (NONE were ever done this way for a military piece); with post market grips with a swastika stuck onto it.

If you want to spend $4500 (a hell of a lot of money), research it first, find out why its valuable and find out if it will be valuable in five years.

I have gone to several auctions and there will be a couple of lugers, one buffed bad and reblued, but pretty and a war horse, one that has seen action, but is in reasonable shape.

Value of each

buffed maybe $600
war horse $1000-$1200

What they went for

buffed $1700
war horse $900

The buffed one won't go up in value except as a shooter so maybe a couple of percent a year; the war horse will go up 5-1-% a year in my humble opinion.... Folks like pretty guns and I have seen some fairly knowledge collectors buy something because it was "so" nice, and I am leery of any really nice luger that is over 65 years old....

In short; if you have $4500 to spend, buy some books, read up on it, read here, ask some questions and buy either a documented (i.e. real) piece of history) and still have money to buy several nice lugers for $4500....
Ed

Ron Smith · 01-15-2009, 10:52 AM

It's a standard Luger. Possibly a vet bring back that the vet decided to immortalize by having it chrome or nickel plated and adding the pearl grips. Once it was plated, it lost whatever collector value it may have had.

For a dealer to promote, or even imply, that it comes with a case covered in "human skin", puts him in a catagory that's too dispicable to place on a scale of low life gunshow scum. IMO, he aspires to be swamp slime.

If in fact he believes his own story? He is one dumb Gomer...

In short, if someone tries to sell you a plated Luger as original, or a presentation piece, etc. They don't exist and never did.

bobcam1 · 01-15-2009, 12:12 PM

Wouldn't we all like to know who this dealer is?....

gto kid · 01-16-2009, 02:02 AM

Wow what a piece of %^*& a real frankenstien...probably worth all of $300 .... keep away

01-15-2009, 02:02 AM	#1
calvarius New User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need help identifying this luger Hi I'm new to this forum, Some guy is trying to sell me this gun, he says that this type of gun was made as a gift for exceptional service to nazi officials. He claims that there a very few of them made. Nazi symbols all all over the gun, mainly on the grips (as you can hardly see on the picture), he's asking for $4500, please let me know what do you think. It all started to sound like a scam when he said that the gun comes with it's original case made out of human skin from concentration camps! Or maybe I'm looking at an exceptional pice of human history?

01-15-2009, 02:37 AM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	You are looking at an exceptional piece of BS. I'm sorry, I usually do not use that kind of language, but given those atrocious claims I am at a loss for proper terminology. The whole tale told by the seller is a pack of lies. The gun is barely worth $450 let alone $4500. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-15-2009, 03:50 AM	#4
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	I beleve you may have found the worst possible way to start owning/collecting luger(s) Calvarius. Total lack of dignity from the seller serving you a lie like that for the profit of money. Human skin.. please give him/her a brief historical summary of the last century before you walk away. __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

01-15-2009, 08:57 AM	#6
Ingvarg User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Iceland Posts: 103 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Go tell the seller to put this "Luger" and the nazi symbols where the sun wont shine, (Sorry the laguage but this is a real fraud) Then go and spend your $4500 on a real collective Luger. You can even have a really nice one for less than $4500, and you will enjoy it a lot more than this one. There are lot of members here more than willing to help you out finding the right one and giving a good advise, but please dont even think about this one..............Well... maybe for $450.....maybe __________________ Regards: Ingvar

01-15-2009, 10:52 AM	#9
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	It's a standard Luger. Possibly a vet bring back that the vet decided to immortalize by having it chrome or nickel plated and adding the pearl grips. Once it was plated, it lost whatever collector value it may have had. For a dealer to promote, or even imply, that it comes with a case covered in "human skin", puts him in a catagory that's too dispicable to place on a scale of low life gunshow scum. IMO, he aspires to be swamp slime. If in fact he believes his own story? He is one dumb Gomer... In short, if someone tries to sell you a plated Luger as original, or a presentation piece, etc. They don't exist and never did. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

01-15-2009, 03:44 AM	#3
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Would you really want something made of human skin......not in my collection.

01-15-2009, 07:17 AM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Good God! We've reached new lows in the gun sellings biz!

01-15-2009, 10:18 AM	#7
calvarius New User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks to everybody you've just saved me a ton of money. Can somebody explain what we're looking at?

01-15-2009, 12:12 PM	#10
bobcam1 User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Wouldn't we all like to know who this dealer is?....

01-16-2009, 02:02 AM	#11
gto kid User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MA Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Wow what a piece of %^*& a real frankenstien...probably worth all of $300 .... keep away