Magasine issues

[Ingvarg]

Hi all.

I have some feeding problems with one of my magasines for my 1909 first contract.
With my 1940 mauser mag its works perfectly but with the another one, a first contract nickel with wood there are some problems.
Always the same. Falure to pick up the first 3 rounds from the mag when fired, but ok. when worked manually. The rest of the rounds feed perfectly.
At first I was wondering if it could be a week mag spring but the fact that the problem is with the first rounds when there is a max presure from the spring tells me not.
Also the follower seems to be free all the way.

I know the Luger is picky on mags but this mag worked fine until reasently and getting anotherone from oversees could possible cost me between 250-300 $ and may or may not work propperly, so I really want to get this one back in action if possible.

Any help would be appriciated

Thanks.

[policeluger]

PM sent

[Ingvarg]

Originally Posted by policeluger

PM sent

Thank you
You got pm to

[alterfritz]

In my limited experience, magazines can be most critical with Lugers. I had two original ones with my Mauser and one wouldn't work. Then I ordered two mec gear and they kinda worked but had a lot of jams. I sent them to GT here in the forum and he fixed them for me. It really seems to depend on what Luger you have, so best to contact one of the magazine experts here.

[Ingvarg]

Originally Posted by alterfritz

In my limited experience, magazines can be most critical with Lugers. I had two original ones with my Mauser and one wouldn't work. Then I ordered two mec gear and they kinda worked but had a lot of jams. I sent them to GT here in the forum and he fixed them for me. It really seems to depend on what Luger you have, so best to contact one of the magazine experts here.

Thanks for your reply Alterfritz.
Thats exactly the problem, you never know how or if they work untill you try them.
And the other "problem" is that I live in Iceland were Lugers are few and far between, so trying out diferent mags is not an option
Also, buying mags from the states or Europe untill I find the one there works could cost lot of $$$$$$$$$$, and shipping mine out for a fix is no simple task eather
So I´m going to try my best to get this one to work propperly before I start to look for another one.
It did work fine before so it should work again......somehow

[Lugerdoc]

Ingvar, In your position, I would try several different brands of ammo to see if that might cure your problem. TH

[Ingvarg]

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

Ingvar, In your position, I would try several different brands of ammo to see if that might cure your problem. TH

Thanks Lugerdoc, but there is still one problem to face. Limited ammo avalability.
Yes, it´s not wery Luger frendly country.
However the pistol did work perfectly with both mags on Magtech 115 grs and also on my 124 grs handloads, and still works perfectly with my other mag, so the problem sems to be that something has changed in the mag in question.
At first I thougt the spring was getting to weak but if so, I guess the feeding problems should be with the last rounds out of it, not the first 3 when there is a max presure from the spring.
I think maybe the lips and the top of the mag got wider by the time and the front of the round sems to stay a bit high compared to the other mag so I´m going to try out some adjustments there.

[Vlim]

On older magazines (and cheap ones ), the magazine lips aren't hardened and will spread out over time. It was a common problem when the P08 was still in use in the 1930s as well, one of the reasons why the switch to the sturdier Haenel-Schmeisser magazines was made.

When developing the postwar Parabellum, Mauser found that with non-hardened magazine bodies and lips, the lips and even the body itself would deform in as little as a few hundred shots. Mauser's supplier switched to a thicker steel and hardened lips to cure (or at least reduce) the problem.

[Ingvarg]

Thanks Vlim. This confirms my theory.
I´m not giving up on this one yet.