Friend purchased his first Luger!

Gary H · 02-23-2010, 09:58 PM

Hi all! A friend of mine just purchased his first Luger. It is a code 42 marked 1939. It appears to be all matching except the magazine (which the previous owner scratched his name on it). I didn't want to remove the grips to see if they were matching (not wanting to risk damaging them) but when I was taking pictures I could see that the former owner had removed them and also engraved his name on the interior side of the wood grips. I'm just looking for your thoughts and valuation of this Luger (and the dagger he purchased with it). Now let's see if I can figger out how to attach the pictures! Thanks!

Gary H · 02-23-2010, 10:10 PM

Another picture.

Gary H · 02-23-2010, 10:12 PM

Another.

Gary H · 02-23-2010, 10:14 PM

The magazine.

DavidJayUden · 02-23-2010, 10:15 PM

Looks like about $1000 to me.
dju

Gary H · 02-23-2010, 10:17 PM

And the knife.

Gary H · 02-23-2010, 10:20 PM

I forgot to take a picture of the scabbard. The former owner's initials on the pommel of the knife BTW.

Edward Tinker · 02-23-2010, 10:27 PM

perhaps a person could get a bit more than David said, but IMHO he's right on in value.

Ed

Gary H · 02-24-2010, 01:00 AM

Well, I hope that my friend's knife has some value! He purchased the Luger and knife together. That's kind of what I figured though.

Conny · 02-24-2010, 01:25 AM

What do the words on the blade say? Just curious.

Dan44 · 02-24-2010, 01:57 AM

My Honor is Loyalty

alanint · 02-24-2010, 06:29 AM

The SS dagger could be worth over $1,000, depending on the scabbard. I hope the previous owner of these items realizes that his name engraving mania hurt the value of his items.

Gary H · 02-24-2010, 01:37 PM

Thanks for the information! I know zero about these knives. The former owner's initials are on a metal fitting attached to a leather strap (I guess only having them on the pommel wasn't enough). The scabbard itself looked good at first glance but there was kind of a crimp partway down that made it a tight fit for the knife. Portions of the blade look like it had been cleaned with an abrasive. Of course, this combo came with the typical and fanciful story about the former owner's brother getting them off the the SS officer that he had slain in combat, that the first 2500 of production run of a luger went to the SS (and forget about the letter suffix), etc. I had previously seen and inspected this Luger at the gun shop, contacted Ed Tinker (great guy!)and confirmed that the asking price for the luger alone wasn't even in the same area code of the ball park, and then a couple of months later my friend texts me about his new purchase! Fortunately he had managed to negotiated the price (way down) to $2000 for the package deal and so he may have done alright for himself.

Gary

02-23-2010, 09:58 PM	#1
Gary H User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 31 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Friend purchased his first Luger! Hi all! A friend of mine just purchased his first Luger. It is a code 42 marked 1939. It appears to be all matching except the magazine (which the previous owner scratched his name on it). I didn't want to remove the grips to see if they were matching (not wanting to risk damaging them) but when I was taking pictures I could see that the former owner had removed them and also engraved his name on the interior side of the wood grips. I'm just looking for your thoughts and valuation of this Luger (and the dagger he purchased with it). Now let's see if I can figger out how to attach the pictures! Thanks! Attached Thumbnails

02-23-2010, 10:10 PM	#2
Gary H User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 31 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Another picture. Attached Thumbnails

02-23-2010, 10:12 PM	#3
Gary H User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 31 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Another. Attached Thumbnails

02-23-2010, 10:14 PM	#4
Gary H User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 31 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The magazine. Attached Thumbnails

02-23-2010, 10:17 PM	#6
Gary H User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 31 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	And the knife. Attached Thumbnails

02-23-2010, 10:15 PM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Looks like about $1000 to me. dju

02-23-2010, 10:20 PM	#7
Gary H User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 31 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I forgot to take a picture of the scabbard. The former owner's initials on the pommel of the knife BTW.

02-23-2010, 10:27 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	perhaps a person could get a bit more than David said, but IMHO he's right on in value. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-24-2010, 01:00 AM	#9
Gary H User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 31 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Well, I hope that my friend's knife has some value! He purchased the Luger and knife together. That's kind of what I figured though.

02-24-2010, 01:25 AM	#10
Conny User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Culpeper, Va. Posts: 279 Thanks: 0 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts	What do the words on the blade say? Just curious. __________________ Rangers Lead the Way, Duane Leiker

02-24-2010, 01:57 AM	#11
Dan44 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	My Honor is Loyalty

02-24-2010, 06:29 AM	#12
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The SS dagger could be worth over $1,000, depending on the scabbard. I hope the previous owner of these items realizes that his name engraving mania hurt the value of his items. Last edited by alanint; 02-24-2010 at 06:12 PM.

02-24-2010, 01:37 PM	#13
Gary H User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 31 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks for the information! I know zero about these knives. The former owner's initials are on a metal fitting attached to a leather strap (I guess only having them on the pommel wasn't enough). The scabbard itself looked good at first glance but there was kind of a crimp partway down that made it a tight fit for the knife. Portions of the blade look like it had been cleaned with an abrasive. Of course, this combo came with the typical and fanciful story about the former owner's brother getting them off the the SS officer that he had slain in combat, that the first 2500 of production run of a luger went to the SS (and forget about the letter suffix), etc. I had previously seen and inspected this Luger at the gun shop, contacted Ed Tinker (great guy!)and confirmed that the asking price for the luger alone wasn't even in the same area code of the ball park, and then a couple of months later my friend texts me about his new purchase! Fortunately he had managed to negotiated the price (way down) to $2000 for the package deal and so he may have done alright for himself. Gary