1900 test guns

CAP Black · 04-17-2010, 10:21 PM

Where can i find the list of recorded numbers for the 1900 test guns that someone tracks - as they come out of the woodwork?
thanks

Edward Tinker · 04-17-2010, 10:46 PM

Central Powers by Jan C. Still has the complete listing

The old thinking was that if numbered 6100-7100 than it is a Test Luger, todays information says that it should be one of the Bannerman numbers to be guaranteed a test luger (like the one I am selling on gunbroker right now

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Ed

Ron Wood · 04-18-2010, 12:41 AM

I track the serial numbers as they show up. I probably should post the additional numbers that have turned up since Jan's book. I'm up to my eyeballs in activities right now but I'll try to sort them out by the end of the month.

CAP Black · 04-18-2010, 08:18 PM

I was wondering how many there are , so far? Ed Sayre's new book states that less than 100 are know to exist?
Thanx
Jack

Ron Wood · 04-18-2010, 10:07 PM

Depends on how you want to count ‘em.

As Ed said, for the longest time the serial number range of the Test guns was considered to be 6100-7100, but that isn’t accurate. To be dead certain that a Luger is a Test piece it would have to be one of the 772 pieces that Bannerman purchased in 1910. Of that lot, 243 known pieces have turned up so far.

If you want to stick with the 6100-7100 range, then 313 known guns are recorded.
If you want to consider all Lugers with Test characteristics (Model 1900, American Eagle, no proof marks, no Germany stamp) then there are an additional 20 known guns in the 5978-6099 range and 106 guns in the 7108-7990 range that are recorded. (No guns between 7100 and 7108 have turned up yet).

In all categories, a grand total of 439 guns are tallied.

So the bottom line, regardless of how you count them, there are considerably more than 100 survivors.

CAP Black · 04-20-2010, 11:21 PM

Much thanks, Ron. from memory and just a glance at the list a couple of years ago I guessed it to be several hundred.
Jack

Edward Tinker · 04-21-2010, 12:08 AM

Wow, with so few hundered existing, should I be asking for more than the one I have ~~grinning~~

cirelaw · 04-29-2010, 04:57 PM

There were copys but not the original

cirelaw · 04-29-2010, 05:07 PM

Jerrys next project.. I would buy a few

04-17-2010, 10:21 PM	#1
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	1900 test guns Where can i find the list of recorded numbers for the 1900 test guns that someone tracks - as they come out of the woodwork? thanks

04-18-2010, 12:41 AM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	I track the serial numbers as they show up. I probably should post the additional numbers that have turned up since Jan's book. I'm up to my eyeballs in activities right now but I'll try to sort them out by the end of the month. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-18-2010, 10:07 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Depends on how you want to count ‘em. As Ed said, for the longest time the serial number range of the Test guns was considered to be 6100-7100, but that isn’t accurate. To be dead certain that a Luger is a Test piece it would have to be one of the 772 pieces that Bannerman purchased in 1910. Of that lot, 243 known pieces have turned up so far. If you want to stick with the 6100-7100 range, then 313 known guns are recorded. If you want to consider all Lugers with Test characteristics (Model 1900, American Eagle, no proof marks, no Germany stamp) then there are an additional 20 known guns in the 5978-6099 range and 106 guns in the 7108-7990 range that are recorded. (No guns between 7100 and 7108 have turned up yet). In all categories, a grand total of 439 guns are tallied. So the bottom line, regardless of how you count them, there are considerably more than 100 survivors. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-29-2010, 04:57 PM	#8
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Definitly Our Classiest There were copys but not the original Attached Thumbnails

04-29-2010, 05:07 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Jerrys next project.. I would buy a few Attached Thumbnails

04-17-2010, 10:46 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Central Powers by Jan C. Still has the complete listing The old thinking was that if numbered 6100-7100 than it is a Test Luger, todays information says that it should be one of the Bannerman numbers to be guaranteed a test luger (like the one I am selling on gunbroker right now ) Ed

04-18-2010, 08:18 PM	#4
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	I was wondering how many there are , so far? Ed Sayre's new book states that less than 100 are know to exist? Thanx Jack

04-20-2010, 11:21 PM	#6
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	Much thanks, Ron. from memory and just a glance at the list a couple of years ago I guessed it to be several hundred. Jack

04-21-2010, 12:08 AM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Wow, with so few hundered existing, should I be asking for more than the one I have ~~grinning~~