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mlmahon · 02-23-2011, 02:52 AM

Hey guys, Love the forum.

Just bought my first real Luger on gunbroker. Late 1970's Mauser (Interarms) 9mm, 6"barrel Navy model. Mint shape safe queen, BRAND NEW IN THE BOX, never been fired with all accessories, packaging, paperwork, and factory test target for $1100.

Originally bought a Stoeger 22 cal luger new back in 1973 for $78.00 but it got stolen in 1979. (stll have the original box, loading tool, paperwork, receipt, and spare mag) It was a great little shooter. Recently bought another one to take it's place also with box, paperwork, loader, and even leather holster. It's also a great, accurate pistol.

I'll post some pics when I get back home from this road trip in Chicago.

-ML

Edward Tinker · 02-23-2011, 04:01 AM

The 6 inch is very nice, I have been looking at them myself.

Sounds like a nice one.

Ed

Ice · 02-23-2011, 07:24 AM

Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to photos.

Charlie

sheepherder · 02-23-2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mlmahon

Late 1970's Mauser (Interarms) 9mm, 6"barrel Navy model...for $1100.

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Great price!!! And a really sharp looking Luger!!!

(We need pics!)

mlmahon · 02-24-2011, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by postino

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Great price!!! And a really sharp looking Luger!!!

(We need pics!)

Yeah, it was a 7 day relisting because of a previous deadbeat bidder. Minimum bid was $999.99. Someone put in the minimum bid 3 hours before the end (hope it wasn't anyone here on the forum), so I clicked on the 'Buy it Now' price of $1,100 to nail it down. The seller notified me that it shipped today Fedex 2nd day. I plan to be home Saturday to pick it up from my FFL. Here is the GB listing with the sellers pics.

FAMILY FORUM, PLEASE BE CAREFUL AT WHAT YOU SAY ---ADMIN

-ML

sheepherder · 02-24-2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mlmahon

FAMILY FORUM, PLEASE BE CAREFUL AT WHAT YOU SAY ---ADMIN

An understandable reaction, young lady, but likely too much information for this forum...

Pics from GB look good! Hardly looks used at all!!!

FNorm · 02-24-2011, 11:37 AM

I got the same Parabellum, NIB about two years ago and turned it into my primary luger shooter. GREAT. First thing I found though, was that over the years the sights were way off. Corrected that, then I didn't like the grips. Seems like, they went to a very sharp trapezoidal shape after the war. I like the rounded oval as in the DWM grips. Hugh, our Forum 'Grip Master' corrected those for me.

Once you get shooting the 6" you're spoiled for the 4" barrel.

FN

Vlim · 02-24-2011, 12:39 PM

Nice gun, well done.

It's not actually a 'navy', it's a 6" and the only reason is that they couldn't get the 4" going at first

Judging from the serial number it was made at around 1973, can't read enough of the number to be more specific. The pistol still has the Swiss style frame, which was being phased out in late 1972, early 1973. Nice to see it still has all whistles and bells with it. Keep it safe and complete

Oh, and if you 'really' like them: Check out our book: www.theparabellumisback.com

tomaustin · 02-24-2011, 09:58 PM

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mlmahon · 02-28-2011, 10:28 PM

Well guys, I picked up the gun Saturday and it is a beauty. Looks to be in mint shape. The serial # is 11.010323. (can I get a manufacturing date?)

The only flaw is some faint action marks on the rear frame (maybe from the factory test firing or just working the toggle action??) Several letters in the 'Made In Germany' stamp are slightly misaligned.

To me, the toggle action and grip safety seem to take a lot of force to actuate. Is this normal or does it just need a little lube job since it has been sitting in a safe for 35 years??

Also, the manual says the 'Safe' and 'Loaded' markings are in English while they are actually in German.

Overall, I am a VERY happy camper.

Any and all comments are welcome.

Thanks,

-ML

FNorm · 03-01-2011, 11:35 AM

Nice! Yeah, an good cleaning and wipe down are needed. You may find some old brown grease in there.

FN

mlmahon · 03-01-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FNorm

Nice! Yeah, a good cleaning and wipe down are needed. You may find some old brown grease in there.

FN

Will do. A thorough cleaning and oiling is scheduled for this weekend after I return Saturday from another work trip in Hobbs, New Mexico (I'm a professional traveler) before going to San Francisco on Monday. I'll check for any hidden engraved numbers when I take it down.

In addition to my previous description, my gun has the standard US export 'FBM' proofs on the top of the barrel and above the take-down lever. Both mags are stamped with the 'Mauser' logo on the flat side. The test target has no date on it.

2 questions.

Is my safety lever backwards from normal Luger pistols??

This may sound stupid, but how is the loading tool used to load the magazines?? The manual doesn't say and I don't want to do it wrong and risk damaging something.

Thanks,

-ML

FNorm · 03-02-2011, 07:12 PM

Safety lever: Mine is. Like they were copying a 1906 Navy, first var.

Put the tool over the follower knob, screw driver blade end up. The ridges on the mag fit into the grooves on the tool. Now you can hold the mag with one hand and the thumb goes on the little plate that sticks out. Pul down and load.

FN

Lugerdoc · 03-02-2011, 09:12 PM

For softer less irating grips, I have in stock black plastic repro M29 Swiss grips that will work @$35/set + $3 S&H. TH

mlmahon · 03-02-2011, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNorm

Safety lever: Mine is. Like they were copying a 1906 Navy, first var.

Put the tool over the follower knob, screw driver blade end up. The ridges on the mag fit into the grooves on the tool. Now you can hold the mag with one hand and the thumb goes on the little plate that sticks out. Pull down and load.

FN

That's what I thought. Just wanted to be sure.

Thanks,

-ML

FNorm · 03-02-2011, 10:04 PM

Here's some disassembly tutorials:

http://www.wonderhowto.com/search/luger/

If you plan to shoot it, clean out the breech block and inside of the firing pin. Also under the extractor.

FN

mlmahon · 03-03-2011, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNorm

Here's some disassembly tutorials:

http://www.wonderhowto.com/search/luger/

If you plan to shoot it, clean out the breech block and inside of the firing pin. Also under the extractor.

FN

Thanks for the info and the link. This forum is a wonderful wealth of informatiion.

-ML

mlmahon · 03-04-2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben M.

Sometimes a holster for these guns show up on eBay or at gun shows.

They look like these :

http://www.lugerlp08.com/Holster.htm

I think I found a holster on GB. It's a vintage RedHead model 1204 DB 6" (not Interarms) Slightly used, brown leather. I'll let you guys know if it fits.

-ML

Edward Tinker · 03-04-2011, 02:04 AM

A direct link to the auction is permitted on this forum and Jan's (some forums do not allow direct / live links).

We do not mind.

Ed

mlmahon · 03-05-2011, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlmahon

Yeah, it was a 7 day relisting because of a previous deadbeat bidder. Minimum bid was $999.99. Someone put in the minimum bid 3 hours before the end (hope it wasn't anyone here on the forum), so I clicked on the 'Buy it Now' price of $1,100 to nail it down. The seller notified me that it shipped today Fedex 2nd day. I plan to be home Saturday to pick it up from my FFL. Here is the GB listing with the sellers pics.

FAMILY FORUM, PLEASE BE CAREFUL AT WHAT YOU SAY ---ADMIN

-ML

Sorry for the jokingly inappropriate remark. I didn't think it would be. Guess I just got overly excited about the whole event. I've always wanted a real Luger pistol.

My apologies to the forum.

-ML

02-23-2011, 02:52 AM	#1
mlmahon User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Port Neches, TX Posts: 80 Thanks: 51 Thanked 23 Times in 12 Posts	Newbie Post Hey guys, Love the forum. Just bought my first real Luger on gunbroker. Late 1970's Mauser (Interarms) 9mm, 6"barrel Navy model. Mint shape safe queen, BRAND NEW IN THE BOX, never been fired with all accessories, packaging, paperwork, and factory test target for $1100. Originally bought a Stoeger 22 cal luger new back in 1973 for $78.00 but it got stolen in 1979. (stll have the original box, loading tool, paperwork, receipt, and spare mag) It was a great little shooter. Recently bought another one to take it's place also with box, paperwork, loader, and even leather holster. It's also a great, accurate pistol. I'll post some pics when I get back home from this road trip in Chicago. -ML

02-23-2011, 04:01 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	The 6 inch is very nice, I have been looking at them myself. Sounds like a nice one. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-24-2011, 09:58 PM	#9
tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	I'll second that book !!!!!!!! ..

02-28-2011, 10:28 PM	#10
mlmahon User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Port Neches, TX Posts: 80 Thanks: 51 Thanked 23 Times in 12 Posts	Well guys, I picked up the gun Saturday and it is a beauty. Looks to be in mint shape. The serial # is 11.010323. (can I get a manufacturing date?) The only flaw is some faint action marks on the rear frame (maybe from the factory test firing or just working the toggle action??) Several letters in the 'Made In Germany' stamp are slightly misaligned. To me, the toggle action and grip safety seem to take a lot of force to actuate. Is this normal or does it just need a little lube job since it has been sitting in a safe for 35 years?? Also, the manual says the 'Safe' and 'Loaded' markings are in English while they are actually in German. Overall, I am a VERY happy camper. Any and all comments are welcome. Thanks, -ML Attached Thumbnails __________________ Knowledge is Power. Trust but Verify. Last edited by mlmahon; 03-01-2011 at 01:38 AM. Reason: spelling

03-01-2011, 11:35 AM	#11
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Nice! Yeah, an good cleaning and wipe down are needed. You may find some old brown grease in there. FN Last edited by FNorm; 03-02-2011 at 07:06 PM. Reason: sp

02-23-2011, 07:24 AM	#3
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to photos. Charlie

02-24-2011, 11:37 AM	#7
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	I got the same Parabellum, NIB about two years ago and turned it into my primary luger shooter. GREAT. First thing I found though, was that over the years the sights were way off. Corrected that, then I didn't like the grips. Seems like, they went to a very sharp trapezoidal shape after the war. I like the rounded oval as in the DWM grips. Hugh, our Forum 'Grip Master' corrected those for me. Once you get shooting the 6" you're spoiled for the 4" barrel. FN

02-24-2011, 12:39 PM	#8
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Nice gun, well done. It's not actually a 'navy', it's a 6" and the only reason is that they couldn't get the 4" going at first Judging from the serial number it was made at around 1973, can't read enough of the number to be more specific. The pistol still has the Swiss style frame, which was being phased out in late 1972, early 1973. Nice to see it still has all whistles and bells with it. Keep it safe and complete Oh, and if you 'really' like them: Check out our book: www.theparabellumisback.com

03-02-2011, 07:12 PM	#13
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Safety lever: Mine is. Like they were copying a 1906 Navy, first var. Put the tool over the follower knob, screw driver blade end up. The ridges on the mag fit into the grooves on the tool. Now you can hold the mag with one hand and the thumb goes on the little plate that sticks out. Pul down and load. FN Last edited by FNorm; 03-02-2011 at 07:13 PM. Reason: sp

03-02-2011, 09:12 PM	#14
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	For softer less irating grips, I have in stock black plastic repro M29 Swiss grips that will work @$35/set + $3 S&H. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

03-02-2011, 10:04 PM	#16
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Here's some disassembly tutorials: http://www.wonderhowto.com/search/luger/ If you plan to shoot it, clean out the breech block and inside of the firing pin. Also under the extractor. FN

03-04-2011, 02:04 AM	#19
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	A direct link to the auction is permitted on this forum and Jan's (some forums do not allow direct / live links). We do not mind. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV