optics

[Rick W.]

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[Rootshot]

The JP Jpoint sight is very compact, super light, and has a number of pistol mounts available (http://www.jprifles.com/1.6.1a.php).

If you are doing a custom artillery-type barrel, I would set a short (2") picatinny rail where the rear sight customarily sits and place the sight on that. If you want lower profile and eliminate the rail, JP has a gunsmith mount that allows you to attach the sight directly to the barrel (http://www.eabco.com/store/index.php...t_version=true).

The Jpoint mounts will work with the Tasco Optima as well. If you are interested, I have a spare Optima sight.

--Rootshot

[Olle]

There's a lot of cheap red dots out there but if you want something extremely small, light and very good quality (but still affordable), try the Optima 2000: http://www.ebay.com/itm/TASCO-OPTIMA...item56434b9a0c

I have one of these on my Beretta 92FS, and it's about as small as they come. It's a discontinued model that can be found dirt cheap, but it's the grandfather of the Docter sights and in my opinion just as well built as anything out there. I have had mine for about 10 years, and it has never failed. You buy the mount separately, but I believe JPoint sights are an exact copy and the mounts should also fit on the Optima: http://www.jprifles.com/1.6.1a.php

[alanint]

Rather than bond the sight to the frame flat, would casting a metallic left grip, which you could actually screw the sight base into be a more stable and permanent platform?

[Ron Wood]

Man, I can see it now! An aluminum grip with a scope mount and a shallow panel milled out on the side for an exotic wood insert, perhaps some sequins and LEDs (well OK, maybe stop with the wood inlay )

[alanint]

I'm just thinking there is really no way to bond anything reliably to the frame flat without ruining the finish and without it eventually coming off under recoil or poor handling/storage. I suppose you could drill into the frame flat if ruining the frame is not an issue.
A purpose made grip would solve your problem without altering the gun..

I don't know, Ron....I kinda like the LED idea!

[Ice]

Actually, I had a pistol grip with an extension that holds a scope. It's for my Colt 1911. It worked pretty good as long as the scope was lightweight. Quit using it because I prefer iron sights.

Charlie

[John Sabato]

Sounds like the grips on the "Man from U.N.C.L.E" TV series P-38...



The scope mount dovetail is clearly seen on the right grip... the grips WERE made of cast metal, probably aluminum.

How about using the dovetail on an artillery model barrel to mount your Reddot sight? Do you think it would take the pounding of the slide movement?

[RAY1946]

I have a red-dot sight on my .22 target pistol and it works grreat! Another device that works just as great for me is the tri-focal glasses I wear. About 3 years ago I got back into music and found that regular bi-focals would just not cut it because the music was in a middle zone; too close for the top lens and too far away for the bottom lens.

At first I thought thats it for the music, only to find out that most of those in the band were wearing tri-focals and could see very well. After aquiring new glasses with that 3rd lens, I realized an added benefit was that I could see the front and rear sights very sharply and could define evn small targets out to possibly 40 yds or so. Today I can shoot bulls-eye slow-fire at 50 yds and get as good results as I can with a Red-Dot!

I am not ashamed to say that I turned 66 earlier this month and that with the tri-focals I can see probably as good as I could 20 years ago....................................RayT

[John Sabato]

Just my personal preference. Like my hating mayonnaise on BLT subs. I like oil."

Hey Rich... try Miracle Whip... MUCH better than Mayonnaise! on BLT subs...

[Blastattack]

Just to re-ignite this thread with some scoped pics.

I'm currently in the process of re-barreling a target Luger, built on a re-blued 20s commercial, and am toying with the idea of machining a barrel that would accept an Ultra dot. Not quite sure how it would mount, but I'm not quite there yet anyways.

[Blastattack]

That is very interesting. I can't imagine the sight is very happy about being violently launched around though. It would be interesting to see how well sich a setup works, and how long the sight lasts for. I'm going to save and re-post these images if you don't mind. Gunbroker likes to purge all the fun stuff.

[Blastattack]

Uploaded for permanence.

[GySgt1811]

This may be a really doofus question; but, how does one properly coque the piece - jerk on the sight?

John

[Blastattack]

Stick your fingers in the holes on the toggle? Beats me.

[tain669]

Hi there, How are you coming along with this scope mount for the Luger? I'd be interested in getting one from you. Thanks. Resp George

[tain669]

Originally Posted by Rick W.

Just a few picts to show some ideas on a Luger optics mount. I am trying to utilize the flat on the left side of the frame to which the steel section of the mount is to be bonded. The basic idea here is to keep the sight off the moving barrel/toggle areas and to take advantage of a left master eye.

Many ideas have gone by the wayside here in concept of design, but had to start somewhere. Over the years in another type of design business, I found that designs are often iterations.

The aluminum section with the modded Weaver mount is removeable from the pistol as an attempt to improve later the aluminum mount section. The mount is offset to the left and forward some for consideration of charging the pistol and keeping the red dot out of the blast some.

The aluminum mount is attached to the steel support block via two 10x32 screws and two alignment pins. I have thought some about machining alignment v-slots for repetition concepts, but first things first. First attempt in prototyping is surely simplistic but hopefully used as a testbed for improvements.

Hopefully at 25yds it will work ok if it stays on the pistol with the super adhesives, if not, perhaps a reinforcing shim under the flat and drill/tap like the old days.

Please pardon the junk on the table top.

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Hi there, Would like to have more info on this mount and maybe get one from you. Thanks. George