I'm finally going to lose my luger verginty

cirelaw · 02-09-2012, 02:12 PM

Eric, With the help of Uncle George and Cousin Jerry and 8 year of collecting luger, I now have the 1917 Artillery Drum and a box of 115 grain, white box Winchester and a range here in Port St. Lucie, Florida. I welcome any last minute advice or recommendations. I chose the second issue drum over the first for easier loading. I know Ill be addicted so I'm signing up for the yearly membership. What can I expect in fireing my artillery. Thank for the years of valued support!

spartacus38 · 02-09-2012, 02:18 PM

You can expect a lot of fun.
Bob

cirelaw · 02-09-2012, 02:22 PM

It seem like its been forever! Thank You!

George Anderson · 02-09-2012, 05:08 PM

Eric, when I load and use drums I only load twenty rounds. Also when firing any old semi auto pistol for the first time I only load two rounds in the magazine. I had a P38 when I was a kid that would fire the full mag with one trigger pull; it's a sobering experiance.

You will also find that you need to have the toggle train open when you insert the drum magazine.

the gunman · 02-09-2012, 05:14 PM

"lots of joy"

cirelaw · 02-09-2012, 05:30 PM

Can You explain the 'open toggle train!!Thats great advice. I've have a few magazines on the safe side, Richie next time your down we have a guest room for both of you!

alanint · 02-09-2012, 05:51 PM

Hi Eric,

In others words, the drum excerts so much pressure on the top round that it is very difficult to seat it with the toggle closed.
The procedure;
- Pull toggle back with standard, empty mag in place
- Toggle locks open due to hold open device
- Insert drum magazine until it clicks in place
- Pull toggle back and release
- Toggle will pick up round with no stress and chamber it
- Fun begins now......

the gunman · 02-09-2012, 06:00 PM

Eric my friend you are a true gentleman. Hope to get down there again in the near future. Would love to visit you two and of course the ducks. Good shoting at the range you will love the drum.

cirelaw · 02-09-2012, 05:59 PM

Now You Are Talkin, I can't wait!

cirelaw · 02-09-2012, 06:19 PM

Come on down. Two years ago I missed you both with my first fractured ankle. Your can take your choice!

rhuff · 02-09-2012, 06:44 PM

Good luck with your Arty and drum!! I just got back from the pistol range after running some rounds through my Mauser, and I still have a smile on my face. I bet I would smile even more if I had a "rig" like that one. Enjoy, and keep us informed.

cirelaw · 02-09-2012, 06:52 PM

Everything is possible, its only You who make them proboble!

spartacus38 · 02-09-2012, 06:57 PM

Eric are you going to use a stock when you shoot?
Bob

cirelaw · 02-09-2012, 07:08 PM

That is my problem, I don't want to touch the leather and matching stock that came with Georges original rig. I do have available ones that came with my 08 Navy and 1920 carbine that would work although illegal I understand. Any suggestions!. I never gave it a thought!

spartacus38 · 02-09-2012, 07:53 PM

Loosen the cup strap,remove stock iron cup and attach the stock to the gun;should work if you shoot righty.
Bob

cirelaw · 02-09-2012, 08:08 PM

GREAT A NO BRAINER. Thanks to you both!

cirelaw · 02-14-2012, 10:07 PM

Thank You all for the heart felt support. You all are closer to me than most of my so-called long lived friends. I'll always be here for all of You!

Vlim · 02-15-2012, 03:50 PM

The leather holster attached to the stock makes the gun much more comfortable to shoot. For my shooting trials, I ordered one of CMR's repro sets (including the stock). It fitted the 1917 DWM without modifications and it shot great.

spartacus38 · 02-16-2012, 11:41 AM

Please let us know how well you do.
Bob

02-09-2012, 02:12 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I'm finally going to lose my luger verginty Eric, With the help of Uncle George and Cousin Jerry and 8 year of collecting luger, I now have the 1917 Artillery Drum and a box of 115 grain, white box Winchester and a range here in Port St. Lucie, Florida. I welcome any last minute advice or recommendations. I chose the second issue drum over the first for easier loading. I know Ill be addicted so I'm signing up for the yearly membership. What can I expect in fireing my artillery. Thank for the years of valued support! Attached Thumbnails

02-09-2012, 06:19 PM	#10
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Come on down. Two years ago I missed you both with my first fractured ankle. Your can take your choice! Attached Thumbnails

02-09-2012, 06:52 PM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Everything is possible, its only You who make them proboble! Attached Thumbnails

02-09-2012, 07:08 PM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	That is my problem, I don't want to touch the leather and matching stock that came with Georges original rig. I do have available ones that came with my 08 Navy and 1920 carbine that would work although illegal I understand. Any suggestions!. I never gave it a thought! Attached Thumbnails

02-09-2012, 08:08 PM	#16
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	GREAT A NO BRAINER. Thanks to you both! Attached Thumbnails

02-09-2012, 02:18 PM	#2
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	You can expect a lot of fun. Bob

02-09-2012, 02:22 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	It seem like its been forever! Thank You!

02-09-2012, 05:08 PM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	Eric, when I load and use drums I only load twenty rounds. Also when firing any old semi auto pistol for the first time I only load two rounds in the magazine. I had a P38 when I was a kid that would fire the full mag with one trigger pull; it's a sobering experiance. You will also find that you need to have the toggle train open when you insert the drum magazine.

02-09-2012, 05:14 PM	#5
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	"lots of joy"

02-09-2012, 05:30 PM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Can You explain the 'open toggle train!!Thats great advice. I've have a few magazines on the safe side, Richie next time your down we have a guest room for both of you!

02-09-2012, 05:51 PM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Hi Eric, In others words, the drum excerts so much pressure on the top round that it is very difficult to seat it with the toggle closed. The procedure; - Pull toggle back with standard, empty mag in place - Toggle locks open due to hold open device - Insert drum magazine until it clicks in place - Pull toggle back and release - Toggle will pick up round with no stress and chamber it - Fun begins now......

02-09-2012, 06:00 PM	#8
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Eric my friend you are a true gentleman. Hope to get down there again in the near future. Would love to visit you two and of course the ducks. Good shoting at the range you will love the drum.

02-09-2012, 05:59 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Now You Are Talkin, I can't wait!

02-09-2012, 06:44 PM	#11
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	Good luck with your Arty and drum!! I just got back from the pistol range after running some rounds through my Mauser, and I still have a smile on my face. I bet I would smile even more if I had a "rig" like that one. Enjoy, and keep us informed.

02-09-2012, 06:57 PM	#13
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	Eric are you going to use a stock when you shoot? Bob

02-09-2012, 07:53 PM	#15
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	Loosen the cup strap,remove stock iron cup and attach the stock to the gun;should work if you shoot righty. Bob

02-14-2012, 10:07 PM	#17
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You all for the heart felt support. You all are closer to me than most of my so-called long lived friends. I'll always be here for all of You!

02-15-2012, 03:50 PM	#18
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	The leather holster attached to the stock makes the gun much more comfortable to shoot. For my shooting trials, I ordered one of CMR's repro sets (including the stock). It fitted the 1917 DWM without modifications and it shot great.

02-16-2012, 11:41 AM	#19
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	Please let us know how well you do. Bob