LugerForum Discussion Forums my profile | register | faq | search
upload photo | donate | calendar

Go Back   LugerForum Discussion Forums > Luger Discussion Forums > All P-08 Military Lugers

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 02-26-2012, 11:18 PM   #1
Tango2020
User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default What Do I have??

This was handed down from my grandfather who took it from a German officer. It is a DWM and has TK engraved on it. I see the # 44 on the side but no serial # otherwise.

Other than this it has engravings tip to toe.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	photo (1).jpg
Views:	40
Size:	153.6 KB
ID:	24743  

Click image for larger version

Name:	photo (2).jpg
Views:	41
Size:	93.1 KB
ID:	24744  

Click image for larger version

Name:	photo (3).jpg
Views:	38
Size:	83.4 KB
ID:	24745  

Click image for larger version

Name:	photo (4).jpg
Views:	42
Size:	130.8 KB
ID:	24746  

Click image for larger version

Name:	photo (5).jpg
Views:	36
Size:	70.7 KB
ID:	24747  

Click image for larger version

Name:	photo (6).jpg
Views:	30
Size:	84.6 KB
ID:	24748  

Click image for larger version

Name:	photo.jpg
Views:	36
Size:	99.8 KB
ID:	24749  


Last edited by Tango2020; 02-27-2012 at 07:02 PM.
Tango2020 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-26-2012, 11:25 PM   #2
rob00000
User
 
rob00000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Without pics it's gonna' be near impossible for anyone to give you some good answers on your luger.
rob00000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-26-2012, 11:26 PM   #3
Tango2020
User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I'm trying to figure out how to do that. Seems I dont have the athoriti.
Tango2020 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 12:11 AM   #5
DavidJayUden
Patron
LugerForum
Patron
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,047
Thanks: 578
Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts
Default

It certainly is pretty. Much nicer than most that we see here. They are generally some GI's idea of you to dress up his war souvenier, but this one seems to be above and beyond all that. I am skeptical that it was actually carried by an officer in the German Arny in this condition, but we'll see what those more learned than I have to say on the matter.
dju
DavidJayUden is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 12:48 AM   #6
TheRomanhistorian
User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 301
Thanks: 170
Thanked 88 Times in 64 Posts
Default

Well, very fascinating piece. I don't know if I've ever seen such a pretty weapon issued to an officer but it is an interesting looking pistol, if nothing else.
__________________
Michael

Nos morituri te salutant - Supposed saying of the gladiators to the emperor ('We, who are about to die, salute you.')

'We are the lantern bearers, my friend; for us to keep something burning, to carry what light we can forward into the darkness and the wind' - From Rosemary Sutcliff's The Lantern Bearers
TheRomanhistorian is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 12:52 AM   #7
lugerholsterrepair
Moderator
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
lugerholsterrepair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Arizona/Colorado
Posts: 7,772
Thanks: 4,940
Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts
Default

I agree with David..A nice professional engraved pistol. The engraving is certainly German in style.

The finish is spectacular as well..even with the original straw.

Is there anything else with your Grandfathers pistol. A holster. box..Papers? Photographs?
__________________
Jerry Burney
11491 S. Guadalupe Drive

Yuma AZ 85367-6182


l[email protected]

928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round
719 207-3331 (cell)


"For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."
lugerholsterrepair is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 01:06 AM   #8
Tango2020
User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Only the pistol and holster with 2 mags.

Why would there be no serial numbers on the gun!

The story I have heard was that there were some made for hitlers higher up generals that were void of serial numbers but I haven't seen anything on this site to coralate with thy story.
Tango2020 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 07:38 AM   #9
CavScoutEurope
User
 
CavScoutEurope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Virginia
Posts: 86
Thanks: 102
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Can we get photos of the holster? Are the mags numbered? Have you disassembled the weapon?
CavScoutEurope is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 08:10 AM   #10
alanint
User
 
alanint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Marco Island, Florida
Posts: 4,867
Thanks: 1,685
Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts
Default

I'm guessing this was made post war by Mauser gunsmiths for a soldier in the occupying forces. Occupation GIs had access to the Mauser factory and this was probably made for someone who could afford the work.
alanint is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 09:07 AM   #11
Tango2020
User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I have not disassembled it yet. I didn't want to go too far with it if it has great value because I didn't know it taking it down and a good cleaning would degrade the value.

I'll post more pictures when I get home tonight.
Tango2020 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 11:39 AM   #12
mrerick
Super Moderator - Patron
LugerForum
Life Patron
 
mrerick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA
Posts: 3,909
Thanks: 1,374
Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts
Default

It is certainly exceptional engraving work and coverage. Safety bar numbered in the military style, but take down lever not.

If it's a 9mm pistol, I think it's most likely a war trophy that got the engraving in Germany then returned with the vet. If it's in .30 Luger, it could be a DWM commercial that got a full engraving treatment here before 1968 (after which serial numbers were required on guns - the engraving could have obliterated what was there). In that case, the safety bar could be a replacement from a military pistol.

I can't see that a proper dis-assembly, cleaning, and lubrication with corrosion preventing gun oil would degrade the value. Just be careful with it if you do it yourself (there are instructions available on this site). Pay particular care with grip removal, and don't gall the grip screws with the wrong screwdriver blade.

Marc
__________________
Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum -
- Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.
mrerick is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 12:26 PM   #13
Tango2020
User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I don't have the gun here to look at but I think the take down leaver does have 44 on it also but is on the bottom and inconspicuous. It is a 9mm.
Tango2020 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 03:59 PM   #14
sheepherder
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
sheepherder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal...
Posts: 8,183
Thanks: 1,400
Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Smith View Post
IMO, it's a presentation piece. Made as an award / reward. The engraving is top quality and certainly does look period, and German.

Ron

...I agree with Ron...
__________________
I like my coffee the
way I like my women...
...Cold and bitter...
sheepherder is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 04:37 PM   #15
Ron Smith
User
 
Ron Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Orygun
Posts: 4,243
Thanks: 118
Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts
Default

IMO, it's a presentation piece. Made as an award / reward. The engraving is top quality and certainly does look period, and German.

Ron
__________________
I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one.


What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...
Ron Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 06:15 PM   #16
rhuff
Patron
LugerForum
Patron
 
rhuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Az.
Posts: 2,291
Thanks: 2,709
Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts
Default

It appears to be beautifully done and it is a striking piece. I really like it, and I don't usually care for engraved Lugers. I have a place in my safe where that one would fit quite nicely. A family heirloom.
rhuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 06:21 PM   #17
Hugo Borchardt
User
 
Hugo Borchardt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 370
Thanks: 340
Thanked 133 Times in 47 Posts
Default

Very nice. I, too, am generally turned off by engraved lugers, but this one looks like a very beautiful special presentation piece.
__________________

My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm
Hugo Borchardt is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 06:25 PM   #18
sheepherder
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
sheepherder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal...
Posts: 8,183
Thanks: 1,400
Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango2020 View Post
I'm trying to figure out how to do that. Seems I dont have the athoriti.
I believe you have to have a minimum number of posts. Keep posting, and when you get the 'authority' to post here, replace your links with Lugerforum-posted pics. Others here are behind corporate firewalls that block Flickr, PhotoBucket, SmugMug, YouTube, etc...but I'm sure they would want the pics preserved here...
__________________
I like my coffee the
way I like my women...
...Cold and bitter...
sheepherder is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 07:05 PM   #19
Tango2020
User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Thanks postino. Think I have it fixed now.
Tango2020 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2012, 07:18 PM   #20
c3006
User
 
c3006's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: east tn
Posts: 526
Thanks: 5
Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts
Default

That is a great looking pistol. Shame there's not more provenance . As far as value it's going to be whatever someone will pay,no way to set a value I could see.
__________________
Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776
c3006 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Lugerforum.com