Where's the beef?

[mastermo]

Hi guys,
I'd like to air out something that has been bothering me for a whole year.
I bought an Artilery Luger LP08 last yr. and the very first time I took it to the range, when I went to see my target, someone, the sneaky ***, dropped sand right on my pistol. The friends that were with me didn't say anything but I could tell fear within them.

Then, this January, it happened again. ....What's their beef could someone enlighten me? And yet, many thru the yr. would come and ask me about them, I also have a P38, an excellent shooting pistol. --Actually both pistols are excellent!
One fella walked over to me and said his dad sent him to come and find out what kind of pistols I was using since I was shooting 100 yds and hitting the target every time. And others even the park rangers would inspect them closely and make good comments and say things like 'I bet they have alot of history behind them, but then there are those that don't show or say anything except display a stoic face.

Now, what prompted me to post this, was on another thread the true experts on Lugers and other subjects, have corporate fire walls etc. Now I agree these guys are, imo, extremely knowledgeable and I respect and admire them and their expertise. Could whatever motives or prejudices underlie what has happen here? And what are some of them? I'd appreciate any input,
M,
who just appreciates and enjoys shooting good arms, with no politics or anything else.

[padredan]

let me get this right some one put sand on your guns at the range and your friends saw it? and then did nothing?>

[policeluger]

You need new friends....

[alanint]

Some nut who hates "Nazi" guns??

[Douglas Jr.]

Originally Posted by policeluger

You need new friends....

...and a new shooting range.

[alvin]

Probably trying to find how it works in real world, verifying "Luger is an over-engineered pistol, has lots of potential, but could fail miserably in dirty battlefield" statement.....

Experiment is OK if it were his property. Try it "free" on yours without permission is a moral issue. And it's weird that your friend did not stop him.

[TheRomanhistorian]

I have to say, it's a bit strange that your friends not only didn't stop them but didn't at least tell you who did it. Such disrespect for someone else's property isn't appropriate anywhere much less at a gun range even if the potential for damage from a bit of 'sand' is relatively low. I've not had such problems myself, I usually get a lot of 'Wow, an honest to God Luger? We don't see many of those here.' but never any hostility. Very strange.

[Ron Smith]

Sounds like the Envy and Jealousy of an immature mind to me.

[kmichaels90]

That is awfully childish although if someone put sand on my gun I might have to put lead in there ass.

[Ron Smith]

If this happened at either of our ranges. The perpetrator would be summarily and permanently banned from the range.

You do not mess with anyone's firearms, period. A hard and fast rule at both of our ranges.

[Vlim]

That would be a reason to kick someone off our range as well (and lose their permit)

[mrerick]

They'd be gone from our range too, especially if anyone handled or otherwise touched a firearm when people were downrange and the range was cold.

Marc

[kmichaels90]

Our range isnt so much a range as defined by most. It is at the local conservation club and is simply a 100 yard path cut through the woods with a large backstop at the end. You pay $15 a year for a membership and can take 1 person or $25 a year and can take 4. There is no one there to enforce the rules that are posted which are few and mainly common sense. So if something were to happen you would probably end up with a not so nice confrontation. I've been there with some royal jerks before and have just left. Most of the time theres no one other than maybe 1 other person there and there usually friendly.

[mastermo]

"let me get this right some one put sand on your guns at the range and your friends saw it? and then did nothing?> " ...Padredan

"You need new friends.... " ....PoliceLuger

---Guys, you missed my main point. I didn't want to write a novel but you see we all went to check our targets together at 100 yds. away looking, as we were walking, towards the targets. We weren't expecting the sneeky B*** to strike!
M

[mastermo]

"...and a new shooting range" ...Douglas jr.

---There are two shooting ranges where I live, 60 miles apart, and it happened one on each.
M

[mastermo]

"Probably trying to find how it works in real world, verifying "Luger is an over-engineered pistol, has lots of potential, but could fail miserably in dirty battlefield" statement.....

Experiment is OK if it were his property. Try it "free" on yours without permission is a moral issue. And it's weird that your friend did not stop him. " ....Alvin

---During cease-fire we are to be behind a 'blue line' behind our shooting benches. We walk betweent the benches to go out and check the targets. The Park Rangers watch like hawks that no one touches the bench for no reason at all and this is what I'm sure of that they walked, back from their close range with a handful of sand, while we were going to the 100 yd. target. And they returned by going beside our bench and just dropped the sand on it.
M

[mastermo]

"I have to say, it's a bit strange that your friends not only didn't stop them but didn't at least tell you who did it. "
Michael
---E'nuf said in the other replies. I know you guys didn't know the situation since I didn't cover it"

"Such disrespect for someone else's property isn't appropriate anywhere much less at a gun range even if the potential for damage from a bit of 'sand' is relatively low. I've not had such problems myself, I usually get a lot of 'Wow, an honest to God Luger? We don't see many of those here.' but never any hostility. Very strange.'"

---You're right, there was no damage to either gun but it can sure get your B/P (blood pressure) up,
I also get the curious and the admires, esp., after telling them something about each pistol. That's why I relaxed a bit and let my guard down thinking bad attempts won't happen, but I was wrong,
M

[mastermo]

"That is awfully childish although if someone put sand on my gun I might have to put lead in there ass." ...KMichael90

---The thought did occur to me, both times but I would do something only to defend myself if they carried their hate and prejudice towards me personally.
The thought that kept coming up was, "These idiots don't know that guns don't kill people, it's people that kill people."
M

[mastermo]

KMichael90,
The first range goes up to 300 yds. and the second goes up to 300 also but if you join membership, you may use the other range up to 500 yds.
Oh, and believe me the Park Rangers do not put up with any crap, they are very, very strict. But there will always be some that can be awful, awful sneaky to do their wrongdoings, because of their hate and prejudices that reside within them.
M

[Curly1]

Maybe you can set up a camera hidden in your range bag to run while you are away from the bench and catch the SOB. Or at the very least clue the rangers in to watch who goes near you bench.