LugerForum Discussion Forums my profile | register | faq | search
upload photo | donate | calendar

Go Back   LugerForum Discussion Forums > Luger Discussion Forums > Unit Markings

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 08-29-2013, 09:59 AM   #1
siegersallee
User
 
siegersallee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 292
Thanks: 107
Thanked 57 Times in 34 Posts
Default Is this an Austrian unit marking?

Hi All,
I recently saw a broomhandle that has this marking on one of the straps and on the stock.

A.R.95.1.K.8

Can anyone help me decipher it?


Richard
__________________
"Für Gott, Kaiser, und Vaterland" -seeking: Erfrut Mag 1229 (no script)
siegersallee is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-29-2013, 10:16 AM   #2
NoncomRetired
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 719
Thanks: 144
Thanked 306 Times in 146 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by siegersallee View Post
Hi All,
I recently saw a broomhandle that has this marking on one of the straps and on the stock.

A.R.95.1.K.8

Can anyone help me decipher it?


Richard
I'll take a guess:

Artillery Rgt 95 1 Kompany waffen #8

(95th Field Artillery Regiment, 1st Company, weapon #8) part of the 10th Ersatz Div from 1916-1918
NoncomRetired is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-29-2013, 11:05 AM   #3
Norme
Always A
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Norme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,417
Thanks: 226
Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts
Default

This particular gun has been the subject of prolonged debate on Jan Still's forum. The problem with Noncom's interpretation (which was also mine) is that Artillery Regiments did not have companies, they had Abteilungs and Battereien.
Regards, Norm
http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...-95-1-K-8-quot
Norme is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-29-2013, 11:06 AM   #4
klaus 3338
User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 517
Thanks: 0
Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts
Default

It is not according the D.V.E. 185 and means Anhaltisches Infanterie Regiment 93; it was part of the IV. army corps.
klaus 3338 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-29-2013, 11:31 AM   #5
NoncomRetired
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 719
Thanks: 144
Thanked 306 Times in 146 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by klaus 3338 View Post
It is not according the D.V.E. 185 and means Anhaltisches Infanterie Regiment 93; it was part of the IV. army corps.
93 or 95?
NoncomRetired is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-29-2013, 11:40 AM   #6
NoncomRetired
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 719
Thanks: 144
Thanked 306 Times in 146 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Norme View Post
This particular gun has been the subject of prolonged debate on Jan Still's forum. The problem with Noncom's interpretation (which was also mine) is that Artillery Regiments did not have companies, they had Abteilungs and Battereien.
Regards, Norm
http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...-95-1-K-8-quot
Having spent seven years in the Filed Artillery, I had taken the 'K' used into consideration. What we have here is trying to interpret what transpired in assigning this Luger with this unit identification over 100 years ago. We don't really know what "exactly" happened.

Maybe the armorer had just been transferred to the artillery, after ten years service in the infantry and he hadn't become artillerized!!!!. Who knows???? Maybe he thought infantrymen were more smarter and had an attitude. I know we signal corpsmen always believed, 'if ya give an artilleryman a sold steel ball, he would have found a way to break it in five minutes"

What both you and I conceived was a natural interpretation.
NoncomRetired is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-29-2013, 03:50 PM   #7
NoncomRetired
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 719
Thanks: 144
Thanked 306 Times in 146 Posts
Default

Hope no one got the idea I never like 13B ground pounders, we loved the hell out of them in Nam, especially if they were on target but peacetime was a different story.
NoncomRetired is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-29-2013, 04:35 PM   #8
klaus 3338
User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 517
Thanks: 0
Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoncomRetired View Post
93 or 95?
uff, I made a big mistake. I oversaw the 95. Now I am at the beginning and must still say: scio, nescio!
Klaus
klaus 3338 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-29-2013, 05:42 PM   #9
NoncomRetired
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 719
Thanks: 144
Thanked 306 Times in 146 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Norme View Post
This particular gun has been the subject of prolonged debate on Jan Still's forum. The problem with Noncom's interpretation (which was also mine) is that Artillery Regiments did not have companies, they had Abteilungs and Battereien.
Regards, Norm
http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...-95-1-K-8-quot
Well, more hours looking, researching, reading............it's a love/hate hobby finding historical data.

I guess it 'could' be as someone else on Dan's Boards pointed out:

Recruiting Depot of the Field Artillery Regt 95 "BUT" was it a 'company' or a 'battery'?? I can't find any 'depot' info but I will say this, for artillery battery to be called "battery' they would have to have 'guns'. A recruiting/depot company would not have any 'guns'. (artillery pieces)

Not to distract from the OP's thread but a bit of trivia:

Why do the call the Artillery the "King of Battle" and the Infantry the "Queen of Battle"?
NoncomRetired is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-30-2013, 05:55 PM   #10
siegersallee
User
 
siegersallee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 292
Thanks: 107
Thanked 57 Times in 34 Posts
Default

Interesting information...but, is this an Austrian unit marking or a German?
__________________
"Für Gott, Kaiser, und Vaterland" -seeking: Erfrut Mag 1229 (no script)
siegersallee is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 08-30-2013, 06:25 PM   #11
NoncomRetired
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 719
Thanks: 144
Thanked 306 Times in 146 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by siegersallee View Post
Interesting information...but, is this an Austrian unit marking or a German?
German....IMO.
NoncomRetired is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Lugerforum.com