Post war Eclictic Luger

mystical_tutor · 09-27-2013, 02:31 PM

Just for interest or discussion I thought i would share this truly eclictic Luger.

Top assembly- Erfurt
Frame- DWM
Barrel- Simpson
Trigger/small parts- mauser
Can't find any Krieghoff or Swiss parts so it doesn't cover the whole world.... LOL

It has a matching aluminum bottom mag which I wasn't able to find today.

rhuff · 09-27-2013, 04:44 PM

Now that is truly a "Heinz 57" Luger. I bet it is a good shooter though. Thank for posting.

mystical_tutor · 09-27-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rhuff

Now that is truly a "Heinz 57" Luger. I bet it is a good shooter though. Thank for posting.

I blush to say it but I can't remember how it shot. have not fired it for years as my social piece is a matched 1939 that fires just fine. Never really pictured myself as a two-gun fighter... LOL.

Gary

Edward Tinker · 09-27-2013, 06:41 PM

The upper is a police, so it received a barrel that was likely bought by the Berlin armory and installed - these were installed when a barrel needed replacement, or they bought a 7.65mm barreled luger from DWM. And was acceptance marked by Simson before sold to the police

mystical_tutor · 09-27-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

The upper is a police, so it received a barrel that was likely bought by the Berlin armory and installed - these were installed when a barrel needed replacement, or they bought a 7.65mm barreled luger from DWM. And was acceptance marked by Simson before sold to the police

Thanks Ed, I just have to get your book....

Gary

mystical_tutor · 09-27-2013, 07:01 PM

Just in case anyone is interested, here is what Sam Costanzo had to say about it:

John Sabato · 09-30-2013, 10:14 AM

Neat Letter Gary!

Dick Herman · 09-30-2013, 11:19 PM

I met Sam Costanzo many years ago at the Houston Gun Collectors Shows. He was always friendly and informative. Is he still around?

Ben M. · 10-04-2013, 10:13 PM

he passed away in the early part of 2010 i think.

mystical_tutor · 10-05-2013, 12:28 PM

Ed, If I'm following you, your saying that this may have actually been a police gun and not a post war put-to-gather?

If so please elaborate a little on the SN. I haven't found anything in your book yet about SNs starting with a 0 (quickly I will admit I'm only part way through the book though--way too many irons in the fire. Retired in '92 and again in '00 and have more to do now than I ever did....

Gary

mystical_tutor · 10-05-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Herman

I met Sam Costanzo many years ago at the Houston Gun Collectors Shows. He was always friendly and informative. Is he still around?

Dick, He and John Walter were both very kind to me, the fledgling collector, I have several letters from each in which they graciously shared their knowledge with me. This was before word processing and handwritten (Sam) and typed (John) obviously took time and effort. One I cherish is this one from John where the challenges of typing jump right out:

The first clip is where he "Stop Press".. I love it. Now days, just delete and retype.

The second clip at the end of the letter where he re-thinks something he said and does a PS. Those are rarely seen any more.

I owe a lot to these two folks along with many others of lesser renoun that did so much to encourage me in my collecting.

Sorry for the off topic stuff--juat an old fart living in the past.

Gary

09-27-2013, 02:31 PM	#1
mystical_tutor User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 230 Thanks: 32 Thanked 39 Times in 25 Posts	Post war Eclictic Luger Just for interest or discussion I thought i would share this truly eclictic Luger. Top assembly- Erfurt Frame- DWM Barrel- Simpson Trigger/small parts- mauser Can't find any Krieghoff or Swiss parts so it doesn't cover the whole world.... LOL It has a matching aluminum bottom mag which I wasn't able to find today. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by mystical_tutor; 09-27-2013 at 02:33 PM. Reason: added information

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	The upper is a police, so it received a barrel that was likely bought by the Berlin armory and installed - these were installed when a barrel needed replacement, or they bought a 7.65mm barreled luger from DWM. And was acceptance marked by Simson before sold to the police __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-27-2013, 07:01 PM	#6
mystical_tutor User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 230 Thanks: 32 Thanked 39 Times in 25 Posts	Just in case anyone is interested, here is what Sam Costanzo had to say about it: Attached Thumbnails

09-30-2013, 10:14 AM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Neat Letter Gary! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

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rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	Now that is truly a "Heinz 57" Luger. I bet it is a good shooter though. Thank for posting.

09-30-2013, 11:19 PM	#8
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	I met Sam Costanzo many years ago at the Houston Gun Collectors Shows. He was always friendly and informative. Is he still around?

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Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	he passed away in the early part of 2010 i think.

10-05-2013, 12:28 PM	#10
mystical_tutor User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 230 Thanks: 32 Thanked 39 Times in 25 Posts	Ed, If I'm following you, your saying that this may have actually been a police gun and not a post war put-to-gather? If so please elaborate a little on the SN. I haven't found anything in your book yet about SNs starting with a 0 (quickly I will admit I'm only part way through the book though--way too many irons in the fire. Retired in '92 and again in '00 and have more to do now than I ever did.... Gary