Luger on Ebay

cdmech · 03-11-2014, 10:57 PM

This guy is selling a Luger on Ebay!

Put this- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luger-parts-...item1c3d7133cd with this- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luger-p-08-p...16.m2518.l4276 and Presto!
Marc

Edward Tinker · 03-11-2014, 11:04 PM

Price is to high

cdmech · 03-11-2014, 11:12 PM

Yes, but free shipping, pay with Paypal, and get Ebay's money back guarantee? It's a Luger collector's dream!

Curss · 03-12-2014, 12:21 AM

Can he do that?! I thought frames couldn't be sold on ebay unless they were antiques!

danielsand · 03-12-2014, 12:38 AM

The frame CAN NOT be sold like this, and I'm sure it will be pulled off in short order. It needs to go from FFL to FFL, as it's been considered a firearm by BATF. Somebody is playing with fire, and WILL get a visit from the alphabet agency.

alanint · 03-12-2014, 07:19 AM

WHAT frame? The Ebay link is to as complete, upper Luger assembly! Although capable of firing a shot, legally, this is just an upper and can be sold as it is shown.

sheepherder · 03-12-2014, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

WHAT frame? The Ebay link is to as complete, upper Luger assembly! Although capable of firing a shot, legally, this is just an upper and can be sold as it is shown.

Two separate auctions; first is -

Luger barrel p-08 original 1918 the best quality arsenal parts. caliber 9mm

Second is -

stock (trigger, grip, safety) for 9 mm. lugar. used but in fantastic shape. Stay barrel and use.

Interesting...He should have put a BIN up with them...Sell it quick!!!

ChrisLL · 03-12-2014, 09:48 AM

Yes, I imagine it will get yanked. I cannot figure out eBay though ... you can buy/sell gun parts but not empty reloading brass? I imagine it's just ignorance ... kind of like the woman representative in Washington that said it would be ok to grandfather high capacity mags as once they were shot they would be "used up" so they would quickly be non-existent anyway.

Chris

John Sabato · 03-12-2014, 10:28 AM

It will only get yanked by eBay if someone rats him out. Ed it correct, the price is way too high. This gun has been refinished, but apparently done very well. The seller would probably also violate the law by mailing it to the lucky buyer... sheesh...

Edward Tinker · 03-12-2014, 02:01 PM

Actually, what federal law would be broken by selling or buying it on ebay?

As long as the buyer provides a FFL, they could still use buy it now and buy it.

Its against ebay policies, which is not any form of a law. If it was cheap, I would have bought it, sent the guy my C&R and logged it in, completely legal

ithacaartist · 03-12-2014, 02:43 PM

Ed,

We can't do that up here in NYS. By state Police rules, it would need to be FFL to FFL only with a transfer on each end. Seller would have to ship through a dealer to any dealer in NY.

I also agree--waaay over-priced!

danielsand · 03-13-2014, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

WHAT frame? The Ebay link is to as complete, upper Luger assembly! Although capable of firing a shot, legally, this is just an upper and can be sold as it is shown.

Sorry, I thought it's obvious I am refering to the second auction (same seller) listing the frame. I had FFL back in the 90s, and I'm pretty familiar with some of the rules, although much changed since then.

Uppers are no problem as we all know. In some states (AZ comes to mind) even receivers (frames) CAN be sold private party to private party either FTF, or even through the mail (within the same state) without ANY paperwork. Interstate transaction is still required to ship to FFl (providing the receiving FFL will accept transfer from the private party), or FFL to FFL with full documentation ( + 4473).

Last weekend I visited a gun show in CA. AR clone uppers GALORE. 80% lower receivers also. People were buying them like candy, and one could hardly approach the tables to see what's on it. CROWDED. Saw nice "presentation/commemorative" Arty for 7K. Few other Lugers, all overpriced. Too much hassle to buy in CA, that has one of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation.

Curly1 · 03-13-2014, 09:53 AM

I listed a non working pellet gun last year for parts only and I got spanked by ebay.

TennBill2 · 03-13-2014, 10:12 AM

Yea, I had an 8 round MGC model Trommelmag yanked...because it LOOKED like a high capacity mag! Just depends on which '20 something' monitor is watching listings that day. He did call to tell me but there was no reasoning, nor any explanation, with this 'young' man.

03-11-2014, 10:57 PM	#1
cdmech User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 218 Thanks: 87 Thanked 134 Times in 55 Posts	Luger on Ebay This guy is selling a Luger on Ebay! Put this- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luger-parts-...item1c3d7133cd with this- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luger-p-08-p...16.m2518.l4276 and Presto! Marc

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Curss User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 303 Thanks: 304 Thanked 98 Times in 75 Posts	Can he do that?! I thought frames couldn't be sold on ebay unless they were antiques! __________________ -Chris

03-12-2014, 10:28 AM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	It will only get yanked by eBay if someone rats him out. Ed it correct, the price is way too high. This gun has been refinished, but apparently done very well. The seller would probably also violate the law by mailing it to the lucky buyer... sheesh... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,936 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Actually, what federal law would be broken by selling or buying it on ebay? As long as the buyer provides a FFL, they could still use buy it now and buy it. Its against ebay policies, which is not any form of a law. If it was cheap, I would have bought it, sent the guy my C&R and logged it in, completely legal __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-12-2014, 02:43 PM	#11
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,292 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	Ed, We can't do that up here in NYS. By state Police rules, it would need to be FFL to FFL only with a transfer on each end. Seller would have to ship through a dealer to any dealer in NY. I also agree--waaay over-priced! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

03-11-2014, 11:04 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,936 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Price is to high

03-11-2014, 11:12 PM	#3
cdmech User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 218 Thanks: 87 Thanked 134 Times in 55 Posts	Yes, but free shipping, pay with Paypal, and get Ebay's money back guarantee? It's a Luger collector's dream!

03-12-2014, 12:38 AM	#5
danielsand User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 137 Thanks: 52 Thanked 100 Times in 43 Posts	The frame CAN NOT be sold like this, and I'm sure it will be pulled off in short order. It needs to go from FFL to FFL, as it's been considered a firearm by BATF. Somebody is playing with fire, and WILL get a visit from the alphabet agency.

03-12-2014, 07:19 AM	#6
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	WHAT frame? The Ebay link is to as complete, upper Luger assembly! Although capable of firing a shot, legally, this is just an upper and can be sold as it is shown.

03-12-2014, 09:48 AM	#8
ChrisLL User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: New England Posts: 70 Thanks: 79 Thanked 28 Times in 19 Posts	Yes, I imagine it will get yanked. I cannot figure out eBay though ... you can buy/sell gun parts but not empty reloading brass? I imagine it's just ignorance ... kind of like the woman representative in Washington that said it would be ok to grandfather high capacity mags as once they were shot they would be "used up" so they would quickly be non-existent anyway. Chris

03-13-2014, 09:53 AM	#13
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,242 Thanks: 117 Thanked 714 Times in 371 Posts	I listed a non working pellet gun last year for parts only and I got spanked by ebay. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

03-13-2014, 10:12 AM	#14
TennBill2 RIP Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 6 Posts	Yea, I had an 8 round MGC model Trommelmag yanked...because it LOOKED like a high capacity mag! Just depends on which '20 something' monitor is watching listings that day. He did call to tell me but there was no reasoning, nor any explanation, with this 'young' man.