1900 Luger ???

fishblade · 01-17-2015, 05:57 PM

I am new to this site .... I wanted to post a early 1900 Luger that my father picked up when I was a young man, mid 70s. I think it may raise some eyebrows and would like to here some discussions on this piece. I would like to post some pictures ,but do not have access as of yet, or do not no how to post. I am new to forums

fishblade · 01-17-2015, 06:16 PM

s1113.photobucket.com

Ron Wood · 01-17-2015, 07:11 PM

It is much better to post photos directly on the forum rather than Photobucket...then the photos don't disappear after a while.

ithacaartist · 01-17-2015, 07:26 PM

Thomas, welcome to the forum. When you want to post pics, go down to the bottom of the thread, below quick reply, and click on go advanced. scroll down on the resultant page and you will see "manage attachments". I think you can figure it out from there.

Edward Tinker · 01-17-2015, 07:30 PM

I transfered the pictures here, and cropped them, hope that was okay.

You have an early, but before the Test Lugers (not a test luger sad to say) with the bomb that is actually a DWM marking.

Ed

fishblade · 01-17-2015, 08:08 PM

Thank you all for viewing and yes thank you for the transfer. I tried to add but I think the file was to big. I used a camera that I am not used to for quality but the size , well thanks for the transfer. I had hoped the bomb was a U S Ord mark with the letter J an inspector stamp. I found the bomb marks about 10 years ago and it took me this long to post. This is why I wanted to post because I wasn't sure and I knew that this site would give accurate knowledge. As everyone with an antique you hope your gun could be an exception. I was kinda thinking that Luger scraped up a few lower serial #s to make up the 100. I searched as many web sites as I could and more or less came up with the same answer. but some sites said different things about the bomb....

alvin · 01-17-2015, 08:50 PM

The bomb on 1900 should be a German inspection stamp. I had an AE 1900 with Germany stamp in the past, it got bombs in the same location. Exactly what they checked when that bomb stamps were applied is unclear.

Accompany with that AE 1900 was a receipt of 1972. The gun was $650 at that time

It's an easy 97% with mint bore.

fishblade · 01-17-2015, 09:17 PM

Is there a photo of a US Ord stamp now I am curious as to what it looks like. I feel a little embarrassed that I posted a picture of the rear sight having been filed off I cant believe someone would destroy a weapon like this. It sure is UGLY

DavidJayUden · 01-17-2015, 11:04 PM

I had a 1900 with no rear sight and ended up buying one from the LugerDoc.
dju

mrerick · 01-17-2015, 11:24 PM

Hello Thomas, and welcome to the forum.

Congratulations on your 1900 Luger, and thank you for posting pictures.

The DWM worker department inspection marks came in quite a variety of shapes and patterns. The one you mention is known, as described above...

If you should be interested, contact G.T. (Gerald) on this forum about repairing the base of your magazine. He's an expert, and does beautiful work.

Marc

fishblade · 01-17-2015, 11:25 PM

Thanks Its something to think about

Edward Tinker · 01-18-2015, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fishblade

Is there a photo of a US Ord stamp now I am curious as to what it looks like. I feel a little embarrassed that I posted a picture of the rear sight having been filed off I cant believe someone would destroy a weapon like this. It sure is UGLY

hah hah - its worse when you type something or show a picture and 6 people point out what an idiot I am

oh well, it happens

personally, although well used, I would like this 1900, it has been around for 110+ years

sheepherder · 01-18-2015, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fishblade

Thanks Its something to think about

There is also a member here named 'Thor' who does restorations; you might contact him about restoring the rear sight and adjacent barrel extension ear that were filed down...

ithacaartist · 01-18-2015, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

There is also a member here named 'Thor' who does restorations; you might contact him about restoring the rear sight and adjacent barrel extension ear that were filed down...

Yes, since it's a matching number, that's the way to go. Much smaller than a stock lug repair, if it's to be built back up with weld. So it may not be too pricey to bring this back. Thor's work will knock your socks off!

Lugerdoc · 02-14-2015, 11:09 AM

Thomas et al, The so called "flaming bomb" that you refer to, is actually the zodiac sigh of Taurus, which was used as an inspection stamp by an early DWM inspector. TH PS: the only M1900 rear toggle link that I currently have in stock is number 24.

fishblade · 02-14-2015, 01:10 PM

Thank you for your reply, I am looking to keep the numbers matching , I am thinking of having thor do some work on it . I have to waite until I have some more money. I hate to alter any weapon ,but in this case maybe......

MFC · 02-15-2015, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

Thomas et al, The so called "flaming bomb" that you refer to, is actually the zodiac sigh of Taurus, which was used as an inspection stamp by an early DWM inspector. TH

Tom,
I respectfully disagree.
Taurus zodiac signs have 2 lines/horns above a circle. The flaming bomb proofs on early DWMs have 3 lines/flames above a circle.

01-17-2015, 05:57 PM	#1
fishblade User Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1900 Luger ??? I am new to this site .... I wanted to post a early 1900 Luger that my father picked up when I was a young man, mid 70s. I think it may raise some eyebrows and would like to here some discussions on this piece. I would like to post some pictures ,but do not have access as of yet, or do not no how to post. I am new to forums

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ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	Thomas, welcome to the forum. When you want to post pics, go down to the bottom of the thread, below quick reply, and click on go advanced. scroll down on the resultant page and you will see "manage attachments". I think you can figure it out from there. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

01-17-2015, 07:30 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	I transfered the pictures here, and cropped them, hope that was okay. You have an early, but before the Test Lugers (not a test luger sad to say) with the bomb that is actually a DWM marking. Ed Attached Thumbnails __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-17-2015, 08:08 PM	#6
fishblade User Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you all for viewing and yes thank you for the transfer. I tried to add but I think the file was to big. I used a camera that I am not used to for quality but the size , well thanks for the transfer. I had hoped the bomb was a U S Ord mark with the letter J an inspector stamp. I found the bomb marks about 10 years ago and it took me this long to post. This is why I wanted to post because I wasn't sure and I knew that this site would give accurate knowledge. As everyone with an antique you hope your gun could be an exception. I was kinda thinking that Luger scraped up a few lower serial #s to make up the 100. I searched as many web sites as I could and more or less came up with the same answer. but some sites said different things about the bomb....

01-17-2015, 08:50 PM	#7
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	The bomb on 1900 should be a German inspection stamp. I had an AE 1900 with Germany stamp in the past, it got bombs in the same location. Exactly what they checked when that bomb stamps were applied is unclear. Accompany with that AE 1900 was a receipt of 1972. The gun was $650 at that time It's an easy 97% with mint bore.

01-17-2015, 09:17 PM	#8
fishblade User Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is there a photo of a US Ord stamp now I am curious as to what it looks like. I feel a little embarrassed that I posted a picture of the rear sight having been filed off I cant believe someone would destroy a weapon like this. It sure is UGLY

01-17-2015, 11:04 PM	#9
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I had a 1900 with no rear sight and ended up buying one from the LugerDoc. dju

01-17-2015, 11:24 PM	#10
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Hello Thomas, and welcome to the forum. Congratulations on your 1900 Luger, and thank you for posting pictures. The DWM worker department inspection marks came in quite a variety of shapes and patterns. The one you mention is known, as described above... If you should be interested, contact G.T. (Gerald) on this forum about repairing the base of your magazine. He's an expert, and does beautiful work. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-17-2015, 11:25 PM	#11
fishblade User Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Its something to think about

02-14-2015, 11:09 AM	#15
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Thomas et al, The so called "flaming bomb" that you refer to, is actually the zodiac sigh of Taurus, which was used as an inspection stamp by an early DWM inspector. TH PS: the only M1900 rear toggle link that I currently have in stock is number 24. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

02-14-2015, 01:10 PM	#16
fishblade User Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you for your reply, I am looking to keep the numbers matching , I am thinking of having thor do some work on it . I have to waite until I have some more money. I hate to alter any weapon ,but in this case maybe......