Help Identify this gun please.

catchief · 08-20-2015, 02:03 PM

I would like to know if anyone can help identify the Luger I am considering buying. I can verify through ownership records that the previous owner is a WWII vet. All of the numbers on the gun match the last two of the serial number, however, there are no German markings on the gun, no Nazi symbols, and no mark on the top of the breech. No date is present either. On the trigger guard is a mark which appears to be either some kind of Arabic or Czech, I'm not certain. A couple of locations on the gun have a "N" mark with what appears to be a star within a circle. The gun is in fair condition, but I haven't been able to get any pictures yet. The seller is asking $400 for it. Anyone have any input?

catchief · 08-20-2015, 02:24 PM

I forgot to mention there is a mark under the barrel that says 7. Something. Its barely legible.

Dwight Gruber · 08-20-2015, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by catchief

... Anyone have any input?

Not without pictures.

--Dwight

DavidJayUden · 08-20-2015, 03:14 PM

Sounds commercial, and $400 is a great price for any Luger that is functional. But that's as far out on the limb as I'll go without photos.
dju

ithacaartist · 08-20-2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Sounds commercial, and $400 is a great price for any Luger that is functional. But that's as far out on the limb as I'll go without photos.
dju

+1!

At this price it would be difficult to go wrong. Pics may reveal more, probably in your favor...

George Anderson · 08-20-2015, 03:43 PM

Is there an "N" on the forward left side of the receiver? If so, is it horizontal or vertical?

John Sabato · 08-20-2015, 03:44 PM

If this gun is shootable... the price is a steal.

catchief · 08-20-2015, 04:00 PM

Ok, I got some pictures but cannot get them downloaded for some reason. Still trying.

catchief · 08-20-2015, 04:01 PM

The owner is saying he just fired it for the first time yesterday and it jammed after one round. I'm thinking it has something to do with the fact that it may need to be cleaned.

catchief · 08-20-2015, 04:03 PM

And the N is horizontal

catchief · 08-20-2015, 04:11 PM

I think I got the pics

catchief · 08-20-2015, 04:13 PM

More

catchief · 08-20-2015, 04:14 PM

Last one

DavidJayUden · 08-20-2015, 04:36 PM

Looks to be .30 caliber, a commercial gun, replacement grips, and well used. The trigger guard marking may be Farsi(?), but that's a W. A. G.
I'd suggest that you buy it and we can ruminate over the small stuff later...
dju

alanint · 08-20-2015, 05:59 PM

The trigger and magazine release appear to be Erfurt. Is the trigger numbered internally?

The Farsi marking may prove to be very interesting.

sheepherder · 08-20-2015, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

I'd suggest that you buy it and we can ruminate over the small stuff later...

+ 1

Four hundred is a steal!

The land marking is a bit odd...But the C/N is a commercial proof...

wlyon · 08-20-2015, 07:20 PM

Buy it !!!! No way you can go wrong. Bill

catchief · 08-20-2015, 07:53 PM

Ok. Bought it! Thanks for the input everyone. If anyone knows more about approximate age or origin I am still interested in learning more about it. I had it apart and the trigger is stamped as well. She needs a good cleaning. What about this "Farsi" mark?

Edward Tinker · 08-20-2015, 08:09 PM

The newest it is, is 1945 and since it has DWM, and if original, then before 1935

Check and see if it has matching parts or mismatched, as I think a parts gun since its a commercial since it has so many parts with numbers. Which is normal for an army or police, but it has so many commercial marks.

The marking of 7,65mm - I would say it is from another country but then where

$400 is a very good buy for any working luger and jamming, well that could be the magazine, the ammo used, a lot of things.

Congrats!

Ed

Ben M. · 08-20-2015, 09:15 PM

ammo can cost more

08-20-2015, 02:03 PM	#1
catchief User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Help Identify this gun please. I would like to know if anyone can help identify the Luger I am considering buying. I can verify through ownership records that the previous owner is a WWII vet. All of the numbers on the gun match the last two of the serial number, however, there are no German markings on the gun, no Nazi symbols, and no mark on the top of the breech. No date is present either. On the trigger guard is a mark which appears to be either some kind of Arabic or Czech, I'm not certain. A couple of locations on the gun have a "N" mark with what appears to be a star within a circle. The gun is in fair condition, but I haven't been able to get any pictures yet. The seller is asking $400 for it. Anyone have any input?

08-20-2015, 03:44 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	If this gun is shootable... the price is a steal. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-20-2015, 04:11 PM	#11
catchief User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I think I got the pics Attached Thumbnails

08-20-2015, 04:13 PM	#12
catchief User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	More Attached Thumbnails

08-20-2015, 04:14 PM	#13
catchief User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Last one Attached Thumbnails

08-20-2015, 02:24 PM	#2
catchief User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I forgot to mention there is a mark under the barrel that says 7. Something. Its barely legible.

08-20-2015, 03:14 PM	#4
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Sounds commercial, and $400 is a great price for any Luger that is functional. But that's as far out on the limb as I'll go without photos. dju

08-20-2015, 03:43 PM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	Is there an "N" on the forward left side of the receiver? If so, is it horizontal or vertical?

08-20-2015, 04:00 PM	#8
catchief User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Ok, I got some pictures but cannot get them downloaded for some reason. Still trying.

08-20-2015, 04:01 PM	#9
catchief User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	The owner is saying he just fired it for the first time yesterday and it jammed after one round. I'm thinking it has something to do with the fact that it may need to be cleaned.

08-20-2015, 04:03 PM	#10
catchief User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	And the N is horizontal

08-20-2015, 04:36 PM	#14
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Looks to be .30 caliber, a commercial gun, replacement grips, and well used. The trigger guard marking may be Farsi(?), but that's a W. A. G. I'd suggest that you buy it and we can ruminate over the small stuff later... dju

08-20-2015, 05:59 PM	#15
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The trigger and magazine release appear to be Erfurt. Is the trigger numbered internally? The Farsi marking may prove to be very interesting.

08-20-2015, 07:20 PM	#17
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,636 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,559 Times in 955 Posts	Buy it !!!! No way you can go wrong. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

08-20-2015, 07:53 PM	#18
catchief User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Ok. Bought it! Thanks for the input everyone. If anyone knows more about approximate age or origin I am still interested in learning more about it. I had it apart and the trigger is stamped as well. She needs a good cleaning. What about this "Farsi" mark?

08-20-2015, 08:09 PM	#19
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	The newest it is, is 1945 and since it has DWM, and if original, then before 1935 Check and see if it has matching parts or mismatched, as I think a parts gun since its a commercial since it has so many parts with numbers. Which is normal for an army or police, but it has so many commercial marks. The marking of 7,65mm - I would say it is from another country but then where $400 is a very good buy for any working luger and jamming, well that could be the magazine, the ammo used, a lot of things. Congrats! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-20-2015, 09:15 PM	#20
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	ammo can cost more