Confirm Luger Identification

walkcubsgb · 02-09-2016, 08:14 AM

I would like to confirm what I already know about this Luger. First I know it has been refinished. But it was done very well. Note the clarity on the serial numbers on the parts. It is a commercial Luger from Oberndorf made by Mauser from leftover DWM parts. Serial Number 9686 N with a nitro proof. Your Commercial Database v.5 show it as "GERMANY right rcvr reblued proof obliterated stock lug ground". I think it was manufactured around 1922.

I bought it from a deal who just purchased a collection. I also purchased a 1914 WWI military Luger made in 1917.

Any more information would be appreciated.

mrerick · 02-09-2016, 08:35 AM

Hello Stephen and welcome to the forum.

i can't see much detail in your photos. If you take more, try taking them in natural light, and get closeups of markings in sharp focus.

I doubt your Luger was made of leftover parts. Is it in .30 Luger caliber? That is what I would expect.

The "n" block of DWM alphabet commercial Lugers would have been made in about 1924 by DWM in Berlin. Mauser didn't start until after they moved the tooling to Oberndorf in the early 1030s...

It looks like the parts that are normally strawed might have been gold plated when this Luger was refinished.

Can you tell if the grips are ivory, or are they plastic?

In any case, you have a nice shooter Luger to enjoy at the range! These are less popular than 9mm Military Lugers, partially because they cost more to shoot in the .30 Luger caliber - if that's what this is...

walkcubsgb · 02-09-2016, 10:30 AM

Yes it is a .30 Luger caliber. The grips are plastic.

Thanx for your feedback.

DonVoigt · 02-09-2016, 10:54 AM

See my response on the other forum.

Edward Tinker · 02-09-2016, 02:44 PM

Stock lug ground is only acceptable on some H.P. marked lugers - so yours would be one of those that was done likely around the 60's or so, folks were worried that having a stock lug equaled having a SBR (short barreled rifle) IF someone owned a stock or thought that the possibility of a stock was possible. Sounds confusing, but this type of thing happened.

Ed

saxman · 03-13-2016, 12:13 PM

I think I would put some wood grips on it.

02-09-2016, 08:14 AM	#1
walkcubsgb User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 16 Thanks: 1 Thanked 23 Times in 7 Posts	Confirm Luger Identification I would like to confirm what I already know about this Luger. First I know it has been refinished. But it was done very well. Note the clarity on the serial numbers on the parts. It is a commercial Luger from Oberndorf made by Mauser from leftover DWM parts. Serial Number 9686 N with a nitro proof. Your Commercial Database v.5 show it as "GERMANY right rcvr reblued proof obliterated stock lug ground". I think it was manufactured around 1922. I bought it from a deal who just purchased a collection. I also purchased a 1914 WWI military Luger made in 1917. Any more information would be appreciated. Attached Thumbnails

02-09-2016, 08:35 AM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Hello Stephen and welcome to the forum. i can't see much detail in your photos. If you take more, try taking them in natural light, and get closeups of markings in sharp focus. I doubt your Luger was made of leftover parts. Is it in .30 Luger caliber? That is what I would expect. The "n" block of DWM alphabet commercial Lugers would have been made in about 1924 by DWM in Berlin. Mauser didn't start until after they moved the tooling to Oberndorf in the early 1030s... It looks like the parts that are normally strawed might have been gold plated when this Luger was refinished. Can you tell if the grips are ivory, or are they plastic? In any case, you have a nice shooter Luger to enjoy at the range! These are less popular than 9mm Military Lugers, partially because they cost more to shoot in the .30 Luger caliber - if that's what this is... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

02-09-2016, 10:54 AM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	See my response on the other forum. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

02-09-2016, 02:44 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Stock lug ground is only acceptable on some H.P. marked lugers - so yours would be one of those that was done likely around the 60's or so, folks were worried that having a stock lug equaled having a SBR (short barreled rifle) IF someone owned a stock or thought that the possibility of a stock was possible. Sounds confusing, but this type of thing happened. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-13-2016, 12:13 PM	#6
saxman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 301 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think I would put some wood grips on it. __________________ You can lead 'em to the water, but you can't make 'em drink.

02-09-2016, 10:30 AM	#3
walkcubsgb User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 16 Thanks: 1 Thanked 23 Times in 7 Posts	Yes it is a .30 Luger caliber. The grips are plastic. Thanx for your feedback.