No safe queen here...

hayhugh · 03-11-2017, 05:53 AM

Won this gun last week at auction. Someone liked to shoot ( no rifling) and the checkering on grips well worn. Missing hold open but one on order from Tom Heller. Candidate for a "Thor" restoration?

https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item...semi-automatic

DonS · 03-11-2017, 08:29 AM

Very nice. IMO, a definite restoration project.

DavidJayUden · 03-11-2017, 10:26 AM

It does have a certain charm as-is. What do you plan to use it for? Shooting range, display, or to fill the safe?
dju

DonVoigt · 03-11-2017, 10:31 AM

Really depends on what you want it for or to do with it.
I'd keep it as is and not worry about shooting it!
Nice catch though.

alvin · 03-11-2017, 10:51 AM

It can be used for display. Framing it and hanging it on the wall. I feel each collector should collect one gun like this in their domain. You don't want to acquire many samples in this condition, no need. But one or two for wall hanging display. Just an personal opinion.

hayhugh · 03-11-2017, 11:44 AM

"They" say that even a really bad barrel can turn in decent scores. Would be kind of nice to have a 1st class looking 1900 luger to shoot at the range.........

DonVoigt · 03-11-2017, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hayhugh

"They" say that even a really bad barrel can turn in decent scores. Would be kind of nice to have a 1st class looking 1900 luger to shoot at the range.........

Well, it is your pistol and your $$; so go for it!

They,the 1900s, feel much different in shooting than the later pistol, JMHO.

4 Scale · 03-11-2017, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayhugh

"They" say that even a really bad barrel can turn in decent scores. Would be kind of nice to have a 1st class looking 1900 luger to shoot at the range.........

I think it depends on what kind of "bad" a barrel has. As long as there is enough rifling to spin the bullet, and there is nothing at the muzzle that will mess up the bullet exit, even a pistol with significant bore corrosion should be accurate. I believe this is because corrosion by definition is the loss of metal, nothing is added to such bores that interferes with bullet travel. If rifling is gone to the extent that the bullet doesn't spin, then the bullet will tumble after muzzle exit and accuracy should decline as well. I am reciting my own experience, not repeating what "they" said.

FWIW, I have a M1900 'shooter' and with a fair bore and it is highly accurate.

DavidJayUden · 03-11-2017, 11:47 AM

I've got a 1900 test Luger in about the same condition. Some long-since-deceased Montana cowboy scratched his name in the side, but I'd not change a thing. A bit of Euro-Americana...
dju

Mac Cat · 03-11-2017, 03:42 PM

Nice BUG stamps !
Glad it's going to a good home !

rhuff · 03-11-2017, 04:21 PM

I, personally, like my shooters to look nice......just my thing. That one could turn out to be a very handsome shooter, and one that the owner will take pride in. I would consider it if it were mine.

ithacaartist · 03-11-2017, 06:37 PM

Here are some pics of the early M1900 I was able to score, as it was when I received it: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showpost...3&postcount=48

I cleaned it up, installed one of Tom's extractors, re-strawed the small parts, and installed another nice grip on the left side. The latter makes it way less collectible, and I have and will be shooting it a little bit. Here is what it looks like now, including the pitting: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showpost...1&postcount=73

spacecoast · 03-11-2017, 08:44 PM

Nice going.

alvin · 03-11-2017, 09:28 PM

This liveauctioneers.com frequently sells C&Rs with low quality pictures and description in simplest form. Not sure why people consign their items to them, but many do. Since it's risky, many collectors dare not bid there. But if you know certain items in domain, could make basic assessment based on primitive information, and willing to take risk, there are "widows" there occasionally.

Edward Tinker · 03-11-2017, 10:27 PM

I like it, you did good!

Leather Neck · 03-12-2017, 12:07 AM

If I had the money to spend, my vote would be restoration. They may not make factory new Lugers anymore, but I think it would be nice to have one that looked like it was. That would be especially true on the firing line!

03-11-2017, 05:53 AM	#1
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 896 Thanks: 857 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	No safe queen here... Won this gun last week at auction. Someone liked to shoot ( no rifling) and the checkering on grips well worn. Missing hold open but one on order from Tom Heller. Candidate for a "Thor" restoration? https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item...semi-automatic

03-11-2017, 10:31 AM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Really depends on what you want it for or to do with it. I'd keep it as is and not worry about shooting it! Nice catch though. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

03-11-2017, 06:37 PM	#12
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	Here are some pics of the early M1900 I was able to score, as it was when I received it: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showpost...3&postcount=48 I cleaned it up, installed one of Tom's extractors, re-strawed the small parts, and installed another nice grip on the left side. The latter makes it way less collectible, and I have and will be shooting it a little bit. Here is what it looks like now, including the pitting: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showpost...1&postcount=73 __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

03-11-2017, 08:44 PM	#13
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	Nice going. __________________ My avatars are the Bulgarian word for "Fire", as seen on my 1900, 1906 and 1908 Bulgarian Contract DWM Lugers. Looking for a DWM Commercial side plate #95

03-12-2017, 12:07 AM	#16
Leather Neck User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 33 Thanks: 31 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	If I had the money to spend, my vote would be restoration. They may not make factory new Lugers anymore, but I think it would be nice to have one that looked like it was. That would be especially true on the firing line! __________________ Semper Fidelis

03-11-2017, 08:29 AM	#2
DonS User Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 31 Thanks: 3 Thanked 45 Times in 13 Posts	Very nice. IMO, a definite restoration project.

03-11-2017, 10:26 AM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	It does have a certain charm as-is. What do you plan to use it for? Shooting range, display, or to fill the safe? dju

03-11-2017, 10:51 AM	#5
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	It can be used for display. Framing it and hanging it on the wall. I feel each collector should collect one gun like this in their domain. You don't want to acquire many samples in this condition, no need. But one or two for wall hanging display. Just an personal opinion.

03-11-2017, 11:44 AM	#6
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 896 Thanks: 857 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	"They" say that even a really bad barrel can turn in decent scores. Would be kind of nice to have a 1st class looking 1900 luger to shoot at the range.........

03-11-2017, 11:47 AM	#9
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I've got a 1900 test Luger in about the same condition. Some long-since-deceased Montana cowboy scratched his name in the side, but I'd not change a thing. A bit of Euro-Americana... dju

03-11-2017, 03:42 PM	#10
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 731 Thanks: 2,095 Thanked 610 Times in 329 Posts	Nice BUG stamps ! Glad it's going to a good home !

03-11-2017, 04:21 PM	#11
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	I, personally, like my shooters to look nice......just my thing. That one could turn out to be a very handsome shooter, and one that the owner will take pride in. I would consider it if it were mine.

03-11-2017, 09:28 PM	#14
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	This liveauctioneers.com frequently sells C&Rs with low quality pictures and description in simplest form. Not sure why people consign their items to them, but many do. Since it's risky, many collectors dare not bid there. But if you know certain items in domain, could make basic assessment based on primitive information, and willing to take risk, there are "widows" there occasionally.

03-11-2017, 10:27 PM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	I like it, you did good!