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02-15-2018, 10:38 PM | #1 |
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Just purchased a 1923 “ commercial” P08 with unmarked grips”wood “ and after market magazine. Serial # does not match toggle! Condition is fair to good i.m.o. Nice bright bore with good rifling any comments ?basically I bought a pig in a poke not knowing an awful lot about these pistols but I have always wanted to own one. Any idea on the price range for something like this Thanks, T.Bone |
02-15-2018, 10:51 PM | #2 |
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Welcome,
better to say what you paid for it, then someone will say if it was good or bad. Could be $200 or 500 or something else. Pictures and caliber are good places to start.
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02-16-2018, 09:23 AM | #3 |
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It is 9 mm I will try to take pictures after I go to the range and break it down to clean thanks for the speedy reply hopefully I can figure out how to post the pictures !
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Another thing to consider, does your Luger have a 4 digit serial number with a suffix letter or a 5 digit serial number? Recent books have started to reclassify Lugers from 1923 commercial to 1920 commercial (those with 5 digit serial numbers) and the former 1920 commercial to the designation of "alphabet Lugers" (Those with 4 digits and a suffix letter), this affects value as well. I recently got a hold of a 1920 commercial (5 digit) in .30 Luger which is all matching with 1 original magazine and a WWII Nazi Holster (which doesn't match my particular model Luger in any historical sense) for $1500 as a reference.
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I hope it is something else because I paid more than the price range that y’all posted
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If it is mechanically sound it would be classified as a mis-matched "shooter".
Most of the DWM commercial pistols left the factory as .30 Luger caliber pistols. It's likely that the barrel or complete canon assembly was replaced if this is in 9mm. As a shooter, it's value is $600 or so if it functions and cycles properly.
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A reminder that such value is merely the market value of gun. In the end, the gun is worth however much you are willing to pay for it so long as you are satisfied with the purchase, as a Luger will most likely only go up in value as the years go on. I am sorry if you feel as if the purchase was not satisfactory for you in that regard. I strongly urge that as you look at buying Lugers, you be very meticulous in your research of the variant, its market prices, and other associated factors affecting its value and history. The people here on these forums have been exceptionally helpful in the past and there are many a book out there assessing value and variants of these pistols, the ones I frequently use is Jan Still's book about Lugers and GunValues book in recent editions.
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TB, Since your commerical (?) luger is in 9mm, chances are that it might be a Police rework from the Weimar era. Does it have a sear or mag safety? What are the markings on the right & left side of the receiver? Any unit markings on the front grip strap? Any or all of those features would enhance the value. Tom
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Here are some photos.I will try to up load more.
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Hello and congratulations,
You can scroll down four posts from this one and see the commercial variation I purchased for $800 numbers matching, .30 caliber. I like your pistol, just wait until you shoot it for the first time and take it apart. All Lugers are a piece of art in my opinion regardless of condition or variants. Give us a range report after you try it out. |
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It's quite a combination of parts, a DWM toggle, Mauser frame, etc. IF the grips are original, and I stress IF, they are valuable, otherwise the gun gets its value as a shooter. If it shoots well, figure about $750 if the grips are repro.
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More pictures .any ideas?
More pictures! Any ideas?
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The original grips are in the last photo
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Their back sides tell the tale. They are repro. Originals would not have a screw hole in the back, and the milling looks extremely rugged, which is uncharacteristic of even good copies. No biggie, though, shoot the wheels off it, as G.T. would say!
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I have a DWM 4 digit serial number with a letter suffix, all matching including the firing pin. Original grips with no numbers, 30 luger caliber, 1920 commercial with "germany" stamped on front of frame. Fair finish, good bore. I had Soloman refurbish the grip panels. I paid $900 for it about a year ago.
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FWIK it's a bit of a conglomeration of parts, probably a good shooter, just stay away from heavy loads.
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Thanks for all the input, original price was 1000 I got it for 800 , I bought it as a shooter not a safe queen I changed out the grips being as the wooden ones were loose and I did not want to damage them further knowing that they are not original makes me less concerned .I wanted to make sure it was not Rommel’s e.d.c. before I shot it !!!
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The frame is of Mauser manufacture after mid-1937. The receiver is from a Dutch Luger; the sear bar is a replacement manufactured before 1916. It is hard to tell from the photo, could you report the actual number on the barrel and say whether it is on the top or underneath? Is the extractor stamped GESICHERT on both sides? Could you please post photos of the backs of the plastic grips? The magazine base looks like it might be a modern magazine made by Mec-Gar (stamped on the body of the magazine), an excellent choice for shooting.
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Let me see if I sum up my “inglourious bastard”,
1 it is a1928 Mauser frame pistole parabelam 2 shooter grade Is this all we know for sure at this point? Thanks T.Bone |
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Hey Dwighg
1928 is on the top of tha barrel ,2681 with a 0 underneath is on the bottom of the barrel.underneath that on the frame is stamped 750 with an o underneath.Gesichert is on both sides.The magazines and grips for both purchased by me online the grips look pretty good I did have to modify down on the magazine end a little bit with the file to make the fit Thanks |
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