More weird "Navy" stuff

ithacaartist · 04-04-2021, 01:06 AM

With your indulgence, I'll consider myself a Sophomore at Luger University, albeit, perhaps, first semester. I've tried very hard to pay attention in class, do as much homework and lab work as I could, etc. Perhaps I was out sick for the lecture...but do any other students recall if the "DWM-NAVY-POST-WAR-LUGER-CARBINE-WITH-STOCK" was ever covered in class? I seem to be missing my notes.

Well, danged if there aren't a couple of fine examples up for auction. https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-Mi...ation/60283190 and https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-Mi...ation/60283191

The online catalog pics aren't clear enough to detect any C/Ms--or much of anything else, for that matter. These contraptions would require SBR status, right?

I like the top one better, as it offers better outcomes if reconfigured, I think.

lugerholsterrepair · 04-04-2021, 02:09 AM

These contraptions would require SBR status, right? I would think it's a good question to ask, yes.
The first one at least seems to have a carbine sight forward of the chamber. One could easily replace the Navy sight with an Artillery toggle with no sight and end up with what could be considered a legitimate carbine?

I am not at all familiar with what the ATF considers a "Luger carbine"

gunnertwo · 04-04-2021, 02:09 AM

Two rear sights?

Reminded me of the TV show "Fantasy Island".

G2

sheepherder · 04-05-2021, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnertwo

Two rear sights?
Reminded me of the TV show "Fantasy Island".
G2

Eric's carbine has two rear sights...

gunnertwo · 04-05-2021, 08:44 PM

How would that work? Can't see that as practical, one would obscure the other.

G2

Ron Wood · 04-05-2021, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunnertwo

How would that work? Can't see that as practical, one would obscure the other.

G2

It doesn't work, you are correct that one obscures the other. The gun should not have that Navy rear toggle link, it should be plain without any sight.
Ron

DonVoigt · 04-13-2021, 12:16 AM

The first one would likely pass "1902" muster if the redundant navy sight were removed; as it is it is just "silly".

JMHO

The second would fall into the huge catch-all of "1920" luger carbine, again JMHO.

Dwight Gruber · 04-13-2021, 06:16 AM

Some "20 carbines" have navy sights. Some others have artillery sights.

--Dwight

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ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	More weird "Navy" stuff With your indulgence, I'll consider myself a Sophomore at Luger University, albeit, perhaps, first semester. I've tried very hard to pay attention in class, do as much homework and lab work as I could, etc. Perhaps I was out sick for the lecture...but do any other students recall if the "DWM-NAVY-POST-WAR-LUGER-CARBINE-WITH-STOCK" was ever covered in class? I seem to be missing my notes. Well, danged if there aren't a couple of fine examples up for auction. https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-Mi...ation/60283190 and https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-Mi...ation/60283191 The online catalog pics aren't clear enough to detect any C/Ms--or much of anything else, for that matter. These contraptions would require SBR status, right? I like the top one better, as it offers better outcomes if reconfigured, I think. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	These contraptions would require SBR status, right? I would think it's a good question to ask, yes. The first one at least seems to have a carbine sight forward of the chamber. One could easily replace the Navy sight with an Artillery toggle with no sight and end up with what could be considered a legitimate carbine? I am not at all familiar with what the ATF considers a "Luger carbine" __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	The first one would likely pass "1902" muster if the redundant navy sight were removed; as it is it is just "silly". JMHO The second would fall into the huge catch-all of "1920" luger carbine, again JMHO. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	Two rear sights? Reminded me of the TV show "Fantasy Island". G2

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gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	How would that work? Can't see that as practical, one would obscure the other. G2

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Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Some "20 carbines" have navy sights. Some others have artillery sights. --Dwight