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09-24-2021, 11:37 PM | #1 |
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sear bar repair?
Hi to all, does anyone here remember the email address of the overseas luger custom pistol smith that makes all the exotic Lugers? He also repairs sear bars and I wish to contact him to that effect?... Let me know if you know... best, til...lat'r....GT
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09-25-2021, 05:45 AM | #2 |
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If you mean Herbert Werle, he unfortunately passed away early this year.
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09-25-2021, 10:51 AM | #3 |
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Well, that sucks! He was very talented, sorry to hear of yet another Luger artesian passing away ... best to all, til....lat'r.....GT
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09-25-2021, 05:45 PM | #4 |
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and he made some really cool luger creations
GT - it must be a special sear bar? |
09-25-2021, 08:52 PM | #6 |
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Hi Ed, no, nothing special. He would just weld up the sear nose and re-machine and re-heat treat? They looked perfect.
I have a bunch of worn or altered ones that could use the repair he performed? I was going to see if he would repair and then split them with me? I have quite a few that i don't trust in my shooters, so I'm always looking for sources and solutions... Best to you Ed, til....lat'r....GT... BTW, the ones I got from you were excellent! Thanks, best to you Ed, til...lat'r....GT.... |
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09-25-2021, 09:29 PM | #7 |
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It seems there are new reproductions out there?
https://jackfirstinc.com/luger-po8-t...-plunger-10-10 |
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09-25-2021, 10:21 PM | #8 |
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Hi Vlim, the price isn't too bad, might be a viable source, it's just that i have the (bad) sear bars in quantity right now? I think Luger man has made them new as well... I'm going to go thru mine and test them in a known gun and see what is really bad?... I like a nice trigger pull, but definitely want it in the correct parameters, not too light. Best, til....lat'r.....GT...
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GT,
I've seen a number of sear bars that had the sear nose/catch repaired. They were spot welded and re-shaped. Not much weld is needed, I suspect you know someone with a tig welder that could spot the nose of the sear catch. Then just work it down with a file. If the weld is done with the right wire it will be sufficiently hard; if not just re-treat/case harden with Kasenite(Casenite?) and normalize. However, if it costs much to do the weld or your time is valuable ; it is not worth it- except to save a matching number part. JMHO.
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09-27-2021, 04:44 PM | #10 |
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Hi Don, good to hear from you! I know it can be done correctly, it's just that Mr. Werle was the complete package? I can probably get the welding done, but to be finished correctly, the sear nose would have to be ground back into shape and all of them jigged up for consistency. I don't want to create more headaches than i can cure?... Just a thought, on the very back burner for now.... best, til....lat'r....GT....
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GT,
You don't have to make them all the "same". Sear bars were fit individually to the luger, as were other numbered parts. So- welding and fitting to a single luger is probably more effective than doing a bunch of them to some arbitrary "norm". Then they will likely require be fit to individual pistol/striker for use. Line up a series of sear bars and observe the height, location, and shape of the sear nose- there is considerable variation on original bars. Don't let the "perfect" preclude the useful in this case.
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09-29-2021, 04:23 PM | #12 |
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same only different?
Hi Don, I agree, but as I may want to sell some of them in the future, They would have to be perfectly to spec for me to sleep well... It's a curse, I know, but i can live with it! ... best, GT
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10-02-2021, 09:00 AM | #13 |
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When I read these posts of the passing of a talented Luger repair/restoration/customization gunsmith I have to wonder if the talent pool is shrinking to near the point of extinction. Is new talent appearing to replace the dear "artisans " lost?
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One day I’d like to become a competent gunsmith who can work with them. But that’s a goal far from my current spot in life.
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10-02-2021, 01:51 PM | #15 |
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I think there are significant numbers of those with the particular, necessary skills who are coming along. But focus on Lugers may be missing. Odds are that a few will be bitten by the Luger bug.
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Unfortunately this isn't just in relation to Luger work. The really skilled gunsmiths are mostly old with seemingly not that many young ones taking up the art. Sad- like many other things of late.
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