Toggle Wear~

cirelaw · 06-20-2022, 05:46 PM

One can tell how much use a luger been fired by toggle wear as long as not reblued~The top is the 1900 Test Luger with the least use`along with the 1900 Luger Carbine Below~

Major Tom · 06-21-2022, 08:21 AM

I noticed on the #86 pistol that the marks are not even, one side heavier wear. Would this suggest actual toggle wear? Out of alignment?

HerrKaiser · 06-21-2022, 10:10 AM

Only thing I can think of is that the ejector is on the right side of the gun and provides just enough resistance to make toggle slap wear a little uneven? His carbine (31) also has just a little slap wear on the left and virtually none on the right. I’ll go check my Lugers here soon to see if they display any similar patterns.

cirelaw · 06-21-2022, 10:33 AM

Good Point TKS

HerrKaiser · 06-21-2022, 11:07 AM

So my Lugers show no discernible pattern on this, though it is something I seem to have informally noticed as I have been handling more Lugers that the left side seems to get more slap.

In the order I attached the pictures below:

1. 1920 commercial. Whoever had it before I did shot the crap out of it. Left side has more slap wear.

2. My Brazilian Contract . Seems to have been shot little, can see a slight bit more toggle slap on the left than the right has developed.

3. GT built P.08 shooter. I have shot the ever loving crap of this particular gun (and manually manipulated it a ton too, this is the gun I used to truly familiarize myself intimately with the Luger). The pics never captured it as I tried, but in hand the toggle slap wear is dead even.

4. GT built Navy shooter. I have not shot this one, but also interested to see that the toggle slap wear so far is also dead even.

5. Refinished Erfurt LP.08. I have shot this a decent amount, and it’s slap wear-at least on the refinish-is biased to the RIGHT side almost completely…

6. Bonus, an RMI potmetal toy Luger with the working action. The wear doesnt match any of the other Luger patterns though.

cirelaw · 06-21-2022, 12:56 PM

Thank You, like my the other ten each show some wear simular to your prettys. One exception is my 1902 Fat Barrel. I will borrow my daughters' camera and take a picture~ For now~There is no evidence of ever been fired~ no marks!

cirelaw · 06-21-2022, 07:14 PM

Difference Of An Original And Reblue~

06-20-2022, 05:46 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Toggle Wear~ One can tell how much use a luger been fired by toggle wear as long as not reblued~The top is the 1900 Test Luger with the least use`along with the 1900 Luger Carbine Below~ Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

06-21-2022, 08:21 AM	#2
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 484 Thanks: 533 Thanked 227 Times in 124 Posts	I noticed on the #86 pistol that the marks are not even, one side heavier wear. Would this suggest actual toggle wear? Out of alignment? __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

06-21-2022, 10:10 AM	#3
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	Only thing I can think of is that the ejector is on the right side of the gun and provides just enough resistance to make toggle slap wear a little uneven? His carbine (31) also has just a little slap wear on the left and virtually none on the right. I’ll go check my Lugers here soon to see if they display any similar patterns. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

06-21-2022, 11:07 AM	#5
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	So my Lugers show no discernible pattern on this, though it is something I seem to have informally noticed as I have been handling more Lugers that the left side seems to get more slap. In the order I attached the pictures below: 1. 1920 commercial. Whoever had it before I did shot the crap out of it. Left side has more slap wear. 2. My Brazilian Contract . Seems to have been shot little, can see a slight bit more toggle slap on the left than the right has developed. 3. GT built P.08 shooter. I have shot the ever loving crap of this particular gun (and manually manipulated it a ton too, this is the gun I used to truly familiarize myself intimately with the Luger). The pics never captured it as I tried, but in hand the toggle slap wear is dead even. 4. GT built Navy shooter. I have not shot this one, but also interested to see that the toggle slap wear so far is also dead even. 5. Refinished Erfurt LP.08. I have shot this a decent amount, and it’s slap wear-at least on the refinish-is biased to the RIGHT side almost completely… 6. Bonus, an RMI potmetal toy Luger with the working action. The wear doesnt match any of the other Luger patterns though. Attached Thumbnails __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

06-21-2022, 12:56 PM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You, like my the other ten each show some wear simular to your prettys. One exception is my 1902 Fat Barrel. I will borrow my daughters' camera and take a picture~ For now~There is no evidence of ever been fired~ no marks! Attached Images

06-21-2022, 10:33 AM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Good Point TKS

06-21-2022, 07:14 PM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Difference Of An Original And Reblue~ Attached Images