"New" Luger P08 from LKCI

K.Wilhelm · 09-06-2022, 08:32 PM

I don't know much, as usual, so I'll just blunder on anyway. The Turkish company formerly known as Tisas (now CM?) that made the hi-power clone a few years back claim to be coming out with a Luger P08. The picture on the LKCI llc website looks like it might be a VOPO Luger or similar. They also show a photo of an Arty Luger.

Anyway, the website states availability perhaps in the fourth quarter of this year. I don't know whether these are new production or rebuilds, or ?

Does anyone have any more info on these?

Bill

gunnertwo · 09-06-2022, 11:19 PM

Link to images:

https://lkcillc.com/wp-content/uploa...L-08122022.pdf

G2

tomaustin · 09-07-2022, 12:08 AM

If they are clearly engraved as replicas.................no serial numbers, etc.....

gunbugs · 09-07-2022, 01:01 AM

Downloaded the catalog from the link. I don't think the photos shown are what they are actually going to make, or are even tool room samples. The "VOPO" P-08 photo appears to be an actual VOPO luger. The"Artiliary",(funny), appears to be an actual Artillery. So I would adopt a "wait and see" attitude. Not to mention they describe their side by side 12ga as an "over/under". The catalog does not inspire confidence.

K.Wilhelm · 09-07-2022, 07:26 AM

Just got an email back from LKCI from an enquiry I made to them, and time has already slipped to 3rd quarter 2023. I will say; however, that I have one of their Hi-power clones, and it is a nice pistol- accurate, reliable, and looks good. BTW, I'm not affiliated with the company and have no financial interest in it.

Doubs · 09-07-2022, 12:02 PM

If Tisas - or whatever they are named now - does for the Luger what they've done for the 1911 and Browning High Power, I'll buy one. I've owned three of their 1911 pistols (still own one) and the quality has been excellent. They also made a clone of the Browning HP called the BR9 "Regent" and it has a good reputation although I don't think they are sold here any longer.

K.Wilhelm · 09-07-2022, 12:23 PM

Glad you like the Tisas 1911s, Walker; I've read some good reviews on them, and the price is certainly right. I am fortunate to have gotten a Tisas BR9 SS nearly new from Gunbroker a couple of years ago. I did replace nearly all of the small internals with Browning parts (not necessary). That pistol has been great.

LKCI is still the importer for the Turkish company now perhaps known as CM. Their website still shows the BR9 pistols, so maybe we'll be able to get them again sometime. Bill

Doubs · 09-07-2022, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K.Wilhelm

Glad you like the Tisas 1911s, Walker; I've read some good reviews on them, and the price is certainly right. I am fortunate to have gotten a Tisas BR9 SS nearly new from Gunbroker a couple of years ago. I did replace nearly all of the small internals with Browning parts (not necessary). That pistol has been great.

LKCI is still the importer for the Turkish company now perhaps known as CM. Their website still shows the BR9 pistols, so maybe we'll be able to get them again sometime. Bill

Bill, my first Tisas 1911A1 was bought 7 years ago this month. The picture below shows the first target I ever shot with it using a center hold. I later bought the 1911A2 which was a series 80 action type. I sold the A2 to finance another purchase and sold the A1 recently to a neighbor who wanted a 1911. The one I own now is the "US ARMY" model that I purchased as a "Blem" for $320 NIB. The "blem"? The slide and frame are slightly different colors. These pistols are well made and do not have a single machine mark inside or out. The quality is far better than it has any right to be for the price.

I also have the Girsan MCP35 clone of the Browning HP. It is also of excellent quality.

The Turks are making some fine handguns at great prices. That's why I wouldn't hesitate to buy a reproduction Luger made by Tisas. I'm betting they'll be done right and it wouldn't surprise me if the parts interchanged with original Lugers just as the 1911 and HP parts do with original guns. Walker

Mac Cat · 09-07-2022, 05:20 PM

LKCI, LTD.

5772 BEAR HOLLOW ROAD SE
NEWARK, OHIO 43055-9464

Interesting - I have never heard of them.
The website is kind of cryptic, but they do have a physical address.

It will be interesting to see what they can do with the lugers.

The lugers are called PO8 ($800) and PO8A ($900).

aldo35 · 09-07-2022, 09:22 PM

Is the company to contact in order to purchase the HP and Lugers? Do they accept C&R? Thanks,

Hoot · 09-07-2022, 09:59 PM

FWIW, I bought a BR9 SS when they first came out. I've only put about 200 rounds through it, but I like it a lot. I always wanted a stainless HP, and bought one to add to my little collection.

gunbugs · 09-08-2022, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aldo35

Is the company to contact in order to purchase the HP and Lugers? Do they accept C&R? Thanks,

If they are new manufacture, they won't be C&R guns.

Good-Day · 09-08-2022, 09:01 PM

Hehehe yeah i think the picks on the Catalog are more than likely "borowed" from the internet

With that said THANKS for letting everyone know I have a Tisas CZ75 and it's extremely well made. I have also had my hands on a few other Tisas products and all have been real nice

If the prices remain the same I would probably pick up one of each

HerrKaiser · 09-08-2022, 10:10 PM

I wonder how much this would impact the shooter grade Luger market if these come out at those prices and still high quality. Half of me says they’ll depress the shooter market by supply and demand, the other half tells me that mismatched but Genuine German made Lugers will become a a collectible category in their own right. Especially VOPO and Combloc capture guns that have already begun their own niche collectible market.

gunnertwo · 09-08-2022, 11:55 PM

If it introduces new shooters and interest to Lugers it wil be worthwhile. If the quality is as good as the other products from the company I'll buy one.

G2

K.Wilhelm · 09-09-2022, 09:46 AM

Also, will this possibly present a new source of parts- depending on their quality & interchangeability?

rhuff · 09-09-2022, 03:32 PM

I see this as a possibly win-win scenario.

lugerholsterrepair · 09-09-2022, 08:57 PM

I would hope they don't have all the warnings/read the manual junk on them like Ruger's do.

Sieger · 09-13-2022, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doubs

Bill, my first Tisas 1911A1 was bought 7 years ago this month. The picture below shows the first target I ever shot with it using a center hold. I later bought the 1911A2 which was a series 80 action type. I sold the A2 to finance another purchase and sold the A1 recently to a neighbor who wanted a 1911. The one I own now is the "US ARMY" model that I purchased as a "Blem" for $320 NIB. The "blem"? The slide and frame are slightly different colors. These pistols are well made and do not have a single machine mark inside or out. The quality is far better than it has any right to be for the price.

I also have the Girsan MCP35 clone of the Browning HP. It is also of excellent quality.

The Turks are making some fine handguns at great prices. That's why I wouldn't hesitate to buy a reproduction Luger made by Tisas. I'm betting they'll be done right and it wouldn't surprise me if the parts interchanged with original Lugers just as the 1911 and HP parts do with original guns. Walker

Doubs,

Do you think there is any chance they will also manufacture a Luger in .45 Caliber?

Sieger

Freischütz · 10-17-2022, 07:38 PM

If they are good quality I’ll buy one.

The website (https://lkcillc.com/) has lots of interesting guns. The “revolver shotguns” caught my eye. Mechanism like a double action revolver.

09-06-2022, 08:32 PM	#1
K.Wilhelm User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Central Colorado Posts: 215 Thanks: 45 Thanked 109 Times in 66 Posts	"New" Luger P08 from LKCI I don't know much, as usual, so I'll just blunder on anyway. The Turkish company formerly known as Tisas (now CM?) that made the hi-power clone a few years back claim to be coming out with a Luger P08. The picture on the LKCI llc website looks like it might be a VOPO Luger or similar. They also show a photo of an Arty Luger. Anyway, the website states availability perhaps in the fourth quarter of this year. I don't know whether these are new production or rebuilds, or ? Does anyone have any more info on these? Bill __________________ NRA Endowment Life member Proud veteran of the Naval Security Group

09-07-2022, 07:26 AM	#5
K.Wilhelm User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Central Colorado Posts: 215 Thanks: 45 Thanked 109 Times in 66 Posts	Just got an email back from LKCI from an enquiry I made to them, and time has already slipped to 3rd quarter 2023. I will say; however, that I have one of their Hi-power clones, and it is a nice pistol- accurate, reliable, and looks good. BTW, I'm not affiliated with the company and have no financial interest in it. __________________ NRA Endowment Life member Proud veteran of the Naval Security Group

09-07-2022, 12:23 PM	#7
K.Wilhelm User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Central Colorado Posts: 215 Thanks: 45 Thanked 109 Times in 66 Posts	Tisas now CM (maybe) Glad you like the Tisas 1911s, Walker; I've read some good reviews on them, and the price is certainly right. I am fortunate to have gotten a Tisas BR9 SS nearly new from Gunbroker a couple of years ago. I did replace nearly all of the small internals with Browning parts (not necessary). That pistol has been great. LKCI is still the importer for the Turkish company now perhaps known as CM. Their website still shows the BR9 pistols, so maybe we'll be able to get them again sometime. Bill __________________ NRA Endowment Life member Proud veteran of the Naval Security Group

09-07-2022, 09:22 PM	#10
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 343 Thanks: 2,223 Thanked 146 Times in 76 Posts	Lkci ltd Is the company to contact in order to purchase the HP and Lugers? Do they accept C&R? Thanks,

09-07-2022, 09:59 PM	#11
Hoot User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mississippi Posts: 26 Thanks: 82 Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts	FWIW, I bought a BR9 SS when they first came out. I've only put about 200 rounds through it, but I like it a lot. I always wanted a stainless HP, and bought one to add to my little collection. __________________ It is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

09-06-2022, 11:19 PM	#2
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	Link to images: https://lkcillc.com/wp-content/uploa...L-08122022.pdf G2

09-07-2022, 12:08 AM	#3
tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	If they are clearly engraved as replicas.................no serial numbers, etc.....

09-07-2022, 01:01 AM	#4
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 659 Thanks: 365 Thanked 1,178 Times in 394 Posts	Downloaded the catalog from the link. I don't think the photos shown are what they are actually going to make, or are even tool room samples. The "VOPO" P-08 photo appears to be an actual VOPO luger. The"Artiliary",(funny), appears to be an actual Artillery. So I would adopt a "wait and see" attitude. Not to mention they describe their side by side 12ga as an "over/under". The catalog does not inspire confidence.

09-07-2022, 12:02 PM	#6
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,687 Times in 554 Posts	If Tisas - or whatever they are named now - does for the Luger what they've done for the 1911 and Browning High Power, I'll buy one. I've owned three of their 1911 pistols (still own one) and the quality has been excellent. They also made a clone of the Browning HP called the BR9 "Regent" and it has a good reputation although I don't think they are sold here any longer.

09-07-2022, 05:20 PM	#9
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 731 Thanks: 2,095 Thanked 610 Times in 329 Posts	LKCI, LTD. 5772 BEAR HOLLOW ROAD SE NEWARK, OHIO 43055-9464 Interesting - I have never heard of them. The website is kind of cryptic, but they do have a physical address. It will be interesting to see what they can do with the lugers. The lugers are called PO8 ($800) and PO8A ($900).

09-08-2022, 09:01 PM	#13
Good-Day User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Washington State Posts: 97 Thanks: 82 Thanked 101 Times in 32 Posts	Hehehe yeah i think the picks on the Catalog are more than likely "borowed" from the internet With that said THANKS for letting everyone know I have a Tisas CZ75 and it's extremely well made. I have also had my hands on a few other Tisas products and all have been real nice If the prices remain the same I would probably pick up one of each

09-08-2022, 10:10 PM	#14
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	I wonder how much this would impact the shooter grade Luger market if these come out at those prices and still high quality. Half of me says they’ll depress the shooter market by supply and demand, the other half tells me that mismatched but Genuine German made Lugers will become a a collectible category in their own right. Especially VOPO and Combloc capture guns that have already begun their own niche collectible market. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

09-08-2022, 11:55 PM	#15
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	If it introduces new shooters and interest to Lugers it wil be worthwhile. If the quality is as good as the other products from the company I'll buy one. G2

09-09-2022, 09:46 AM	#16
K.Wilhelm User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Central Colorado Posts: 215 Thanks: 45 Thanked 109 Times in 66 Posts	Also, will this possibly present a new source of parts- depending on their quality & interchangeability? __________________ NRA Endowment Life member Proud veteran of the Naval Security Group

09-09-2022, 03:32 PM	#17
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	I see this as a possibly win-win scenario. __________________ Need DWM breechblock #21

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,939 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	I would hope they don't have all the warnings/read the manual junk on them like Ruger's do. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-17-2022, 07:38 PM	#20
Freischütz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 125 Thanks: 9 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts	If they are good quality I’ll buy one. The website (https://lkcillc.com/) has lots of interesting guns. The “revolver shotguns” caught my eye. Mechanism like a double action revolver.