Luger ID

Bob Lipps · 04-24-2004, 06:31 PM

I am attempting to identify some items from my uncles estate.

According to my research this is a 1908 Commercial, however there are several discrepancys to that finding. The gun has no chamber marking, no stock lug, no grip safty and the "new" toggle type. The serial # does not fall in the range (or type) for a Commercial (it is 4 digits with a letter). All part #'s are matching and the gun appears to be original finish (the inside is in the white) however the extractor does not have a # and neither do the grips. Even tho the grips seem well worn to the gun. There is a unit marking on the front grip strap of 159.R.6.1

Here's my attempt at including pictures, hope it works:

Would like to hear your opinion(s).

BTW there's more to come. I've got an Arty and a Nambu to do yet. Plus this gun was in a 1916 holster. I'll post that to the "Holster" section, later.

Thanks

Ron Wood · 04-24-2004, 06:40 PM

The proof marks on your Luger are on the left side of the receiver, therefore you have a 1908 First Issue Military, and the letter following the 4 digits is probably an "a" or a "b".

Doubs · 04-24-2004, 11:07 PM

The unit marking designates the 159th Infantry Regiment, 6th Company, Weapon Number 1.

The extractor may be numbered underneath. It must be removed to see the numbers.

Edward Tinker · 04-25-2004, 01:43 AM

Nice Bob, looks like a nice one. Look forward to seeing the arty, the holster and the Nambu!

Ed

Lugerdoc · 04-25-2004, 10:24 AM

Bob, These 1st issue DWM military PO8s are numbered in the commerical style (last 2 digits of serial on lower edge of TD lever & side plate, extrator and mid toggle link numbered inside, etc.). The standard Military serialization, didn't appear until some time in 1910. TH

04-24-2004, 06:31 PM	#1
Bob Lipps User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger ID I am attempting to identify some items from my uncles estate. According to my research this is a 1908 Commercial, however there are several discrepancys to that finding. The gun has no chamber marking, no stock lug, no grip safty and the "new" toggle type. The serial # does not fall in the range (or type) for a Commercial (it is 4 digits with a letter). All part #'s are matching and the gun appears to be original finish (the inside is in the white) however the extractor does not have a # and neither do the grips. Even tho the grips seem well worn to the gun. There is a unit marking on the front grip strap of 159.R.6.1 Here's my attempt at including pictures, hope it works: Would like to hear your opinion(s). BTW there's more to come. I've got an Arty and a Nambu to do yet. Plus this gun was in a 1916 holster. I'll post that to the "Holster" section, later. Thanks

04-24-2004, 06:40 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	The proof marks on your Luger are on the left side of the receiver, therefore you have a 1908 First Issue Military, and the letter following the 4 digits is probably an "a" or a "b". __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-25-2004, 01:43 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,936 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Nice Bob, looks like a nice one. Look forward to seeing the arty, the holster and the Nambu! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-25-2004, 10:24 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Bob, These 1st issue DWM military PO8s are numbered in the commerical style (last 2 digits of serial on lower edge of TD lever & side plate, extrator and mid toggle link numbered inside, etc.). The standard Military serialization, didn't appear until some time in 1910. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

04-24-2004, 11:07 PM	#3
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,694 Times in 556 Posts	The unit marking designates the 159th Infantry Regiment, 6th Company, Weapon Number 1. The extractor may be numbered underneath. It must be removed to see the numbers.