holy grail

twobit · 01-29-2004, 11:14 PM

you all seem to know what it is all about when it comes to lugers.I think I have found the holy grail of knowledge with these little babies.I have been collecting guns for a long time.I acquired a (DWM 1915 commercial serial#8165) not to long ago.Is this a average run of the mill luger or is there anything special about it.I always wanted one.Thank you for your time for any information you all have.Let me know if there is anything else about this luger you need.
TWOBIT

Edward Tinker · 01-30-2004, 12:00 AM

twobit, if you can provide photos of it, further information such as markings, placement of serial numberings, etc., then more help can be provided.

Welcome to the forum!

Ed

Ron Wood · 01-30-2004, 12:41 AM

Pictures would help. Since it has a date and with that serial number, I doubt it is a commercial. Probably the last commercial produced was near the start of WWI around 1913, possibly early 1914. Commercial Lugers would not have a chamber date and would have a 5 digit serial number. Is it 9mm? Does it have Crown/N proofs?

By the way, I like your member number.

twobit · 01-30-2004, 09:31 PM

thank you for your response.I am not able to do the piture thing.the numbers under the barrel is 6013 and 6013 on the left side then still on the barrel real small 682 under the barrel on the frame it has 8165 for the rest of the #s I see 13 all over the slide.extracter,snare ect.it has a 65 on the take down lever and a 65 on the lever that slides up to put on the safty.on the back strap it look like it would be able to put on a stock? 1915 on the chamber.on the right side of the luger it has a couple of s with crowns and the eagle with the crown.inside the grip its carved E.B.1925
its 9mm.im not sure about crown/N proofs. there is no import marks.

John Sabato · 01-30-2004, 10:13 PM

The gun is definitely the sum of two different Lugers... that makes it shooter class... Although it has a stock lug, it would not be legal to attach one without paying a 200 dollar federal tax and registering it as a short barreled rifle... not really worth that, but certainly enjoy it for what it is...

A Luger!

01-29-2004, 11:14 PM	#1
twobit New User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: virginia Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	holy grail you all seem to know what it is all about when it comes to lugers.I think I have found the holy grail of knowledge with these little babies.I have been collecting guns for a long time.I acquired a (DWM 1915 commercial serial#8165) not to long ago.Is this a average run of the mill luger or is there anything special about it.I always wanted one.Thank you for your time for any information you all have.Let me know if there is anything else about this luger you need. TWOBIT

01-30-2004, 12:00 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	twobit, if you can provide photos of it, further information such as markings, placement of serial numberings, etc., then more help can be provided. Welcome to the forum! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-30-2004, 12:41 AM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Pictures would help. Since it has a date and with that serial number, I doubt it is a commercial. Probably the last commercial produced was near the start of WWI around 1913, possibly early 1914. Commercial Lugers would not have a chamber date and would have a 5 digit serial number. Is it 9mm? Does it have Crown/N proofs? By the way, I like your member number. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-30-2004, 10:13 PM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	The gun is definitely the sum of two different Lugers... that makes it shooter class... Although it has a stock lug, it would not be legal to attach one without paying a 200 dollar federal tax and registering it as a short barreled rifle... not really worth that, but certainly enjoy it for what it is... A Luger! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-30-2004, 09:31 PM	#4
twobit New User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: virginia Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thank you for your response.I am not able to do the piture thing.the numbers under the barrel is 6013 and 6013 on the left side then still on the barrel real small 682 under the barrel on the frame it has 8165 for the rest of the #s I see 13 all over the slide.extracter,snare ect.it has a 65 on the take down lever and a 65 on the lever that slides up to put on the safty.on the back strap it look like it would be able to put on a stock? 1915 on the chamber.on the right side of the luger it has a couple of s with crowns and the eagle with the crown.inside the grip its carved E.B.1925 its 9mm.im not sure about crown/N proofs. there is no import marks.