1st. Krieghoff Photo...

Pete Ebbink · 06-05-2002, 10:36 PM

Just a nice HK luger photo posting, not mine...but I am hunting an HK... <img src="graemlins/a_smil17.gif" border="0" alt="[blabla]" />

John D. · 06-05-2002, 11:51 PM

Really sweet Pete, thanks for posting it..!!! Wonder who "dinged" the trigger guard, though??? <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />

Pete Ebbink · 06-06-2002, 12:06 AM

Must'a been the Luffwaffe pilot when he ejected from his jet plane...

Yea...that's the ticket...!

Yea...he crashed through the canopy and bent the trigger guard,,,yea... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Honestly, didn't most Krieghoffs stay on the ground with support troops ?

John D. · 06-06-2002, 12:11 AM

And he must'a landed on a sub after ejecting - cause the anchor on the top makes it definately a Navy Luger, too... This has got to be a "one of a kind" Luger, for sure...!!! <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />

John D. · 06-06-2002, 12:14 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Wm. Pete Ebbink:
Honestly, didn't most Krieghoffs stay on the ground with support troops ?<hr></blockquote>

As I understand yes - as the Flak Corp and other units were a part of the Luftwaffe. Also, given the size of the Luger - I have read that it was too bulky for most pilots, who preferred a smaller personal firearm. I think Bill M. also posted on this subject - or was in an e-mail to me? Bill M. - thoughts/comments???

Edward Tinker · 06-06-2002, 12:33 AM

Actually John, I would have missed that ding, it did look funny, but...

Good eye, but still pretty gun.

I didn't know they could eject back then Pete? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

(and John, it is nice when you make a stupid writing mistake and can correct it) [img]smile.gif[/img]

John D. · 06-06-2002, 08:54 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Edward Tinker:
..and John, it is nice when you make a stupid writing mistake and can correct it)<hr></blockquote>

Are you kidding me - I live by that feature!!!

[img]eek.gif[/img]

Thor · 06-06-2002, 09:05 AM

Nice picture Pete!!! <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

Roadkill · 06-06-2002, 09:13 PM

Krieghof + Luftwaffe + Fallshirmjager+ gravity =
dings.

RK <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

Jimbo · 06-07-2002, 01:45 AM

Hi Pete,

I only collect Mauser Lugers. Pictures like that make me want a KRIEGHOFF as well. Will this addiction never end? When are enough Lugers enough? I ask you? What is this sickness? Have I contracted...

Luger lust???

Sweet Luger by the way. Who owns it?

wterrell · 06-07-2002, 10:27 AM

Jimbo,
<img src="graemlins/cussing.gif" border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" />
The only known cure is castration!

Regards,
wes <img src="graemlins/icon501.gif" border="0" alt="[icon501]" />

Pete Ebbink · 06-08-2002, 12:01 AM

Hello Jimbo

I found this jpeg file on the Hermann Historica (Germany) web site at :

http://www.hermann-historica.com/

I do not know who bought the HK... [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]

John D. · 06-08-2002, 12:20 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Jimbo:
...Pictures like that make me want a KRIEGHOFF as well.....<hr></blockquote>

Hmmm - I wasn't gonna say this but..... You should see a really nice Krieg in person..!!! About that pic - and not to nit "pic" (pun intended [img]smile.gif[/img] )..

The blue is splotchy (could be the photo?),
The trigger guard is bent;
The wear on the cannon (under the sideplate) doesn't match the wear on the toggle knurls;
Why is the indent in the safety detent marked in white?;
Why doesn't the straw on the takedown match the trigger/safety?
Why is the takedown resting at the wrong angle - is it fully locked?

I'd study the photo longer - but you get the idea
[img]tongue.gif[/img]

Anyway - just my opinion, but what do I know??!! [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]eek.gif[/img]

Pete Ebbink · 06-08-2002, 12:36 AM

Hello John D.,

[img]eek.gif[/img] Boy, do you have a sharp eye... [img]eek.gif[/img]

On the old Forum when this German auction site was first posted, I recall someone (can't remember whom) stated that the European gun collectors are more concerned with bore and working order and are not as sensitive to refinished and touched up works as we Americans might be...

Can any new Forum members that live in Europe make comment about this point ? [img]eek.gif[/img]

Jimbo · 06-10-2002, 01:24 AM

John D.

Your post could have begun, "Ah, grasshopper..."

You critical veteran eye automatically picked up the defects while I saw what I wanted to see -- a pristine KRIEGHOFF.

I think you just gave me valuable lesson. <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />

Instead of looking with emotion, a newbie such as I must look critically at any Luger, not just the ones I plan to purchase. I guess I still have much to learn. But learn it I will.

Thanks loads for the free lesson.

John D. · 06-11-2002, 10:18 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Jimbo:
....Your post could have begun, "Ah, grasshopper..."<hr></blockquote>

Aww - thanks.. [img]smile.gif[/img] Seriously, I guess maybe I'm a little critical - but as some know, Kriegs are what I truly enjoy collecting - so I take a somewhat "jaded" view of a picture - and am drawn to what I see in a picture as it compares to what I have or have personally looked at...

Kriegs are something special, to be sure (at least to me, anyway [img]smile.gif[/img] ) and they still have something of an "aura" around them. But - I'm a little biased... [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]eek.gif[/img]

John D. · 06-11-2002, 10:56 PM

[quote]Originally posted by John D.:
...Kriegs are what I truly enjoy collecting... <hr></blockquote>

BTW: Anyone have a line on a good "G" date HK??? Still looking for one to trade up..!!!???

06-05-2002, 10:36 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	1st. Krieghoff Photo... Just a nice HK luger photo posting, not mine...but I am hunting an HK... <img src="graemlins/a_smil17.gif" border="0" alt="[blabla]" />

06-06-2002, 12:14 AM	#5
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Wm. Pete Ebbink: <strong>Honestly, didn't most Krieghoffs stay on the ground with support troops ?</strong><hr></blockquote> As I understand yes - as the Flak Corp and other units were a part of the Luftwaffe. Also, given the size of the Luger - I have read that it was too bulky for most pilots, who preferred a smaller personal firearm. I think Bill M. also posted on this subject - or was in an e-mail to me? Bill M. - thoughts/comments???

06-06-2002, 12:33 AM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Actually John, I would have missed that ding, it did look funny, but... Good eye, but still pretty gun. I didn't know they could eject back then Pete? [img]tongue.gif[/img] (and John, it is nice when you make a stupid writing mistake and can correct it) [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-06-2002, 08:54 AM	#7
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Edward Tinker: <strong>..and John, it is nice when you make a stupid writing mistake and can correct it)</strong><hr></blockquote> Are you kidding me - I live by that feature!!! [img]eek.gif[/img]

06-06-2002, 09:05 AM	#8
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Nice picture Pete!!! <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" /> __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-05-2002, 11:51 PM	#2
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Really sweet Pete, thanks for posting it..!!! Wonder who "dinged" the trigger guard, though??? <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />

06-06-2002, 12:06 AM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Must'a been the Luffwaffe pilot when he ejected from his jet plane... Yea...that's the ticket...! Yea...he crashed through the canopy and bent the trigger guard,,,yea... [img]tongue.gif[/img] Honestly, didn't most Krieghoffs stay on the ground with support troops ?

06-06-2002, 12:11 AM	#4
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	And he must'a landed on a sub after ejecting - cause the anchor on the top makes it definately a Navy Luger, too... This has got to be a "one of a kind" Luger, for sure...!!! <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />

06-06-2002, 09:13 PM	#9
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Krieghof + Luftwaffe + Fallshirmjager+ gravity = dings. RK <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

06-07-2002, 01:45 AM	#10
Jimbo User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF CA Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Pete, I only collect Mauser Lugers. Pictures like that make me want a KRIEGHOFF as well. Will this addiction never end? When are enough Lugers enough? I ask you? What is this sickness? Have I contracted... Luger lust??? Sweet Luger by the way. Who owns it?

06-07-2002, 10:27 AM	#11
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Jimbo, <img src="graemlins/cussing.gif" border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" /> The only known cure is castration! Regards, wes <img src="graemlins/icon501.gif" border="0" alt="[icon501]" /> __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

06-08-2002, 12:01 AM	#12
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Jimbo I found this jpeg file on the Hermann Historica (Germany) web site at : http://www.hermann-historica.com/ I do not know who bought the HK... [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]

06-08-2002, 12:20 AM	#13
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Jimbo: <strong>...Pictures like that make me want a KRIEGHOFF as well.....</strong><hr></blockquote> Hmmm - I wasn't gonna say this but..... You should see a really nice Krieg in person..!!! About that pic - and not to nit "pic" (pun intended [img]smile.gif[/img] ).. The blue is splotchy (could be the photo?), The trigger guard is bent; The wear on the cannon (under the sideplate) doesn't match the wear on the toggle knurls; Why is the indent in the safety detent marked in white?; Why doesn't the straw on the takedown match the trigger/safety? Why is the takedown resting at the wrong angle - is it fully locked? I'd study the photo longer - but you get the idea [img]tongue.gif[/img] Anyway - just my opinion, but what do I know??!! [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]eek.gif[/img]

06-08-2002, 12:36 AM	#14
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello John D., [img]eek.gif[/img] Boy, do you have a sharp eye... [img]eek.gif[/img] On the old Forum when this German auction site was first posted, I recall someone (can't remember whom) stated that the European gun collectors are more concerned with bore and working order and are not as sensitive to refinished and touched up works as we Americans might be... Can any new Forum members that live in Europe make comment about this point ? [img]eek.gif[/img]

06-10-2002, 01:24 AM	#15
Jimbo User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF CA Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John D. Your post could have begun, "Ah, grasshopper..." You critical veteran eye automatically picked up the defects while I saw what I wanted to see -- a pristine KRIEGHOFF. I think you just gave me valuable lesson. <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> Instead of looking with emotion, a newbie such as I must look critically at any Luger, not just the ones I plan to purchase. I guess I still have much to learn. But learn it I will. Thanks loads for the free lesson.

06-11-2002, 10:18 PM	#16
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Jimbo: <strong>....Your post could have begun, "Ah, grasshopper..."</strong><hr></blockquote> Aww - thanks.. [img]smile.gif[/img] Seriously, I guess maybe I'm a little critical - but as some know, Kriegs are what I truly enjoy collecting - so I take a somewhat "jaded" view of a picture - and am drawn to what I see in a picture as it compares to what I have or have personally looked at... Kriegs are something special, to be sure (at least to me, anyway [img]smile.gif[/img] ) and they still have something of an "aura" around them. But - I'm a little biased... [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]eek.gif[/img]

06-11-2002, 10:56 PM	#17
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by John D.: <strong>...Kriegs are what I truly enjoy collecting... </strong><hr></blockquote> BTW: Anyone have a line on a good "G" date HK??? Still looking for one to trade up..!!!???