History of the Luger...

Johnny C. Kitchens · 10-11-2003, 12:05 AM

I noticed that the "History of the Luger" page here is a slightly edited version, as in shorter, version of the same article on another website. To see the full story go the connection I've included here... History of the Luger

John D. · 10-11-2003, 12:11 AM

Thanks Johnny..!!!! Let me take a look and update this page - as long as it's the same source without copyright on their website - I'll update this page.... And ask them where they copied "their page" from (which may be more interesting...)....

Thanks again..!

Ron Wood · 10-11-2003, 12:26 AM

It is the same history (how many histories can the same gun have?), but it isn't the same article. There are probably several other accounts of the genesis of out favrorite firearm, for example, check out Regnier which is Paul Regnier's site. There is no plagerism involved with any of these "histories", just several individual attempts to provide the Luger enthusiast with a bit of background.

John D. · 10-11-2003, 12:32 AM

Hi Ron....!!

Well - how many histories??? I dunno, I met the General D. W. M. - and he professed a few.. Why do you ask?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Seriously - Johnny's link is almost a direct "copy and paste". Take a look and give me your thoughts, OK???

Best to you!

- John

Ron Wood · 10-11-2003, 12:49 AM

Yeah, you are right, it is a copy and paste. Sorry, should have read a little farther and more carefully. Now, who copied whom?

Edward Tinker · 10-11-2003, 11:37 AM

I've been thinking of writing a history too.

This guy had this idea after seeing another pistol, he improved upon it, then DWM (which stands for some german words), made the improved pistol, which they had been making before, and also some Lowe company, (which isn't to say they had low standards) and they made some different variations and now they make some guns out of shiny metal called stainless.

John D.

John D. · 10-11-2003, 11:48 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Edward Tinker:
......
John D.<hr /></blockquote>Oh - that's a Lowe blow.....

Edward Tinker · 10-12-2003, 12:10 AM

pistol, older than Colt 1911, guy named Georg helped

Roadkill · 10-12-2003, 09:56 AM

pstl,<1911,GL hlpd

rk

Dwight Gruber · 10-12-2003, 01:35 PM

P-08

--Dwight

John D. · 10-12-2003, 01:59 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Johnny C. Kitchens:
I noticed that the "History of the Luger"....[/URL]<hr /></blockquote>And here is their updated site page:

History of the Luger

My thanks to Fred at huntingsociety.org for the changes..!

John D. · 10-13-2003, 08:28 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tacfoley:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dwight Gruber:
P-08 --Dwight<hr /></blockquote>Veneered Mr Gruber - not ALL Lugers were P08s.....<hr /></blockquote>Next thing you'll post - is that there are other variations besides Krieghoffs......

Nope - I just don't believe that...

Ron Wood · 10-13-2003, 08:47 PM

Krieghoffs were one of the better reproductions. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

John D. · 10-13-2003, 09:01 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Ron Wood:
Krieghoffs were one of the better reproductions. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>OK - that hurt...

LOL!!!!

10-11-2003, 12:05 AM	#1
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	History of the Luger... I noticed that the "History of the Luger" page here is a slightly edited version, as in shorter, version of the same article on another website. To see the full story go the connection I've included here... History of the Luger __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

10-11-2003, 12:26 AM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	It is the same history (how many histories can the same gun have?), but it isn't the same article. There are probably several other accounts of the genesis of out favrorite firearm, for example, check out Regnier which is Paul Regnier's site. There is no plagerism involved with any of these "histories", just several individual attempts to provide the Luger enthusiast with a bit of background. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-11-2003, 12:49 AM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Yeah, you are right, it is a copy and paste. Sorry, should have read a little farther and more carefully. Now, who copied whom? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-11-2003, 11:37 AM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	I've been thinking of writing a history too. This guy had this idea after seeing another pistol, he improved upon it, then DWM (which stands for some german words), made the improved pistol, which they had been making before, and also some Lowe company, (which isn't to say they had low standards) and they made some different variations and now they make some guns out of shiny metal called stainless. John D. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-11-2003, 11:48 AM	#7
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Edward Tinker: <strong>...... John D.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Oh - that's a Lowe blow.....

10-11-2003, 12:11 AM	#2
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Thanks Johnny..!!!! Let me take a look and update this page - as long as it's the same source without copyright on their website - I'll update this page.... And ask them where they copied "their page" from (which may be more interesting...).... Thanks again..!

10-11-2003, 12:32 AM	#4
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hi Ron....!! Well - how many histories??? I dunno, I met the General D. W. M. - and he professed a few.. Why do you ask?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Seriously - Johnny's link is almost a direct "copy and paste". Take a look and give me your thoughts, OK??? Best to you! - John

10-12-2003, 12:10 AM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	pistol, older than Colt 1911, guy named Georg helped __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-12-2003, 09:56 AM	#9
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	pstl,<1911,GL hlpd rk

10-12-2003, 01:35 PM	#10
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	P-08 --Dwight

10-12-2003, 01:59 PM	#11
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Johnny C. Kitchens: <strong>I noticed that the "History of the Luger"....[/URL]</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">And here is their updated site page: History of the Luger My thanks to Fred at huntingsociety.org for the changes..!

10-13-2003, 08:28 PM	#12
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by tacfoley: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Dwight Gruber: <strong>P-08 --Dwight</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Veneered Mr Gruber - not ALL Lugers were P08s.....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Next thing you'll post - is that there are other variations besides Krieghoffs...... Nope - I just don't believe that...

10-13-2003, 08:47 PM	#13
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Krieghoffs were one of the better reproductions. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-13-2003, 09:01 PM	#14
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Ron Wood: <strong>Krieghoffs were one of the better reproductions. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">OK - that hurt... LOL!!!!