Uh-oh...

[ithacaartist]

I guess I now own my 1900 shooter. Funny, they described it as a 1906 "thin barrel". http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie.../1024/lid/5386 This is just about what I wanted as far as condition and price...well, it's always more expensive than we want, whatever. I think the overall fine pitting is charming!

Here's how I rationalize the buyer's premium: It's what I pay to eliminate travel expenses. A couple hundred bucks might barely cover the gas to a Luger this distance from me--which I think I would travel if I had to.

I'll get better pics up once it's home, which will be a while if it's anything like last time I won something there.

[alvin]

I like it. It's a taste. If it's all matching, it's a gem.

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But don't "restore" it. It has been kept as is for many years, that's not easy, keep it this way will be the best. Once I saw a pistol on GB, sending message to seller asking the bore condition. He replied "fair bore, but you can reline it". I was so disappointed -- not on the bore condition, but on his misunderstanding.

[Edward Tinker]

I bid on it too - just at the lower end - I agree with what you say about travel and the buyers premium, although I plan on sending them a check.

I won the 1925 Simson and somehow ended up with an early colt

[nukem556]

Great....if you're a Luger guy, you've got to eventually have a 1900

[sheepherder]

At least you won something...I bid on a lot that I was sure no one else would want, and bid the 'high end', with Plus 2...And still lost...

Oh! Hey Dave - I looked at that one! I thought the big grip thingie was some kind of cartridge counter...

[alvin]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

At least you won something...I bid on a lot that I was sure no one else would want, and bid the 'high end', with Plus 2...And still lost...

What's the meaning of those "Plus 1", "Plus 2", I saw that on bid form, but don't know the meaning so I always leave that blank...

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by alvin

What's the meaning of those "Plus 1", "Plus 2", I saw that on bid form, but don't know the meaning so I always leave that blank...

Ah! There's another controversy! I had thought it meant a second (or third) incremented bid, from your last bid...But another member told me it was a second (or third) bid from the last bid, no matter who from...

There is a big difference...If it's from the last bid, and say there were 3 bids above yours, in increments of $100, your Plus 1 bid could be $400 higher than your last bid...And your Plus 2 could be $400 more than that...But if it's just a Plus 1 from your last bid, then you'd stop at $200 over your maximum...

It's very confusing...

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by nukem556

Great....if you're a Luger guy, you've got to eventually have a 1900

Oh, well, I am taking one to Louisville to sell

[Edward Tinker]

Its a plus 1 or 2 to YOUR bid

or else you'd be guaranteed to win if it was plus 1 to the final bid

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Its a plus 1 or 2 to YOUR bid

or else you'd be guaranteed to win if it was plus 1 to the final bid

No, because once you use a Plus 1 (or your Plus 2), it's gone; used up...

It's gotta be the Plus to YOUR last bid (like you say)...'cause if there were 10 of you bidding, you could go $2,000 over your original bid of $1,000...

Doesn't matter. I could go Plus 10 and someone on the floor would still win it.

[ithacaartist]

I'm glad this morning that no one has pointed out that I paid too much. It was somewhat of an emotional influence, because I've wanted something like this baaaad for quite a while. Spiffy ones are out of reach for me, so I was more than willing to accept this "fair" condition one since it is affordable to me.

The 1906 I had G.T. re-barrel for me initially looked like an old beater before I swapped grips and barrel. I remember that it had a certain appeal to me that way, but the slight makeover won out and I'm not sorry. But this one seems even more able to stand just the way it is, plus a little cleaning up, and I can shoot it!

This is the only item I bid on, and at low estimate, so I perceived it quite unlikely to come through and was well-surprised when the notification came in. Once again, the hammer price is equal to my max bid--which was through RIA's website, NOT Proxibid, which saves several points off the premium. I'm paying by check or M.O., so that saves another 2.5% compared to c.c. payment.

Rich, that thingie looked like a "counter" window to me, too, at first glance! Never got involved with the plusses; I set my limit, submit a proxy bid as early as possible, and like Ron Popeil would say, forget it! I shudder to think what would happen if I attended an auction for something I really wanted with a pocket full of cash! My system eliminates all the emotion in the bidding aspect of things except, of course, for that moment of submitting the bid.

One detail to which I must attend before it arrives is to get a replacement CC permit. Mine accompanied everything else in it as my wallet took a ride in the washer two weeks ago, and is pretty much papier mache'. The photo came detatched in the process and is blank! Mine is the last county in the state to change to laminated permits, and I hope the county clerk has straightened out their machine by now! It is puzzling that my driver's license, which shared the wallet pocket, was completely gone, and it was laminated!

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

I'm glad this morning that no one has pointed out that I paid too much.

I can't get into the posted hammer prices yet, so I'll refrain comment.

One detail to which I must attend before it arrives is to get a replacement CC permit.

My local permit office replaces mine almost constantly. First the change to the plastic cards (mine is 3 cards long), then they eliminated the fingerprint, then they took another picture [no reason given], now we have a newly elected PP/CC clerk so a new permit will be needed next time I register something.

I also noticed I forgot to update my employer/occupation...Oh, well...

[alvin]

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

I'm glad this morning that no one has pointed out that I paid too much. It was somewhat of an emotional influence, because I've wanted something like this baaaad for quite a while.

For this type of auction, there is something unknown. For example, is it a matching pistol...

But making decision before everything is crystal clear is part of gun collecting (actually, part of many moments in life IMO). Personally, I have made decisions numerous time based on poor dark photos, very simplified descriptions, etc. Some relatively cheap guns (but great ones) came that way.. Of course, also made some mistakes in the past. So far, "gain" is still bigger than "loss".

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by alvin

I have made decisions numerous time based on poor dark photos, very simplified descriptions, etc.

You left out cheap liquor...

[alvin]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

You left out cheap liquor...

Right When everyone realizes something being a good deal, they would pump the price up.

Of course, should not take totally blind action. 80% sure. 20% unknown, that's common risk in remote transaction.

[hayhugh]

Alvin wrote:For this type of auction, there is something unknown. For example, is it a matching pistol...

They did explain the overall condition of the gun:



OE GOOD: some minor replacement parts; metal smoothly rusted or lightly pitted in places, cleaned; lightly scratched, bruised or minor cracks repaired; in good working order.

[Edward Tinker]

Its easy to get excited at an auction. I paid too much for the 1902 Colt but have wanted one for a while - the Simson I paid just under what my 'max' was set for (less than half of what an unmolested model would be).

Rich, was unsure how you meant. I thought i was clear You bid $1200 and do plus 2 and it will bid to $1400 (hundred dollar increments at that amount). I think you get around 4 or 5 k and it starts to be $500 increments.

Normal auction bidding.....

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Permits? for what? See you NY guys think thats normal - its not - I just buy a gun and put it in my C&R book and when I was younger; some states I am in, I just buy a gun no el-paper-work-o

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Permits? for what? See you NY guys think thats normal - its not - I just buy a gun and put it in my C&R book and when I was younger; some states I am in, I just buy a gun no el-paper-work-o

*sigh*

When you are able, Rich, you'll see that the hammer price was $1,100--same as RIA's "low estimate".

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

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Permits? for what?

All NYS permits are concealed carry. Some states I've been in allow purchase but not carry concealed.

$1,100 sounds reasonable to me. I paid more for my 1900AE.

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

All NYS permits are concealed carry. Some states I've been in allow purchase but not carry concealed.

$1,100 sounds reasonable to me. I paid more for my 1900AE.

hmmmm - permit allows carry too?

I thought everyone had to get a permit but few had carry permits

but i might be confusing NJ with NY City vs rest of NY

Philly has laws that SAY that carry permits from the rest of the state are not legal, but state legislature disagrees