Help Identifying luger

Lostdutch · 03-01-2015, 01:49 PM

Just received a family heirloom. It is in rough shape and I would like to learn more about it. It is serial number 29421. I has smooth walnut grip and the ideal holster. There is the American Eagle logo and the DWM logo embossed. It has a trigger safety and bottom of barrel states Germany and the serial number. Can anybody tell me what type of Luger this is?

Scorpius · 03-01-2015, 02:16 PM

pics are always helpful

Lostdutch · 03-01-2015, 04:53 PM

Thanks for the quick reply. I have attached some pics. Hope those help.

Lostdutch · 03-01-2015, 05:04 PM

There is a story behind it, but from doing a little research and thinking this is a commercial gun, not so sure about the accuracy. According to my father in law the gun was issued by the Army to his grandfather's brother during WW I. Any chance that can be true?

George Anderson · 03-01-2015, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostdutch

There is a story behind it, but from doing a little research and thinking this is a commercial gun, not so sure about the accuracy. According to my father in law the gun was issued by the Army to his grandfather's brother during WW I. Any chance that can be true?

Not a chance. It's a 1906 model American Eagle model made for the American commercial market. On the "up side" it is fitted out with a pair of American Ideal grips and combination holster/shoulder stock. The Ideal grips and stock are worth a good amount of money alone.

alanint · 03-01-2015, 06:19 PM

You have an intriguing and valuable combination. The ideal holster and corresponding grips are particularly collectable.
The finish appears original, but better photos would confirm this.

A very nice inheritance, despite the "roughness"!

DavidJayUden · 03-01-2015, 07:30 PM

9mm cal. or .30?
dju

Lostdutch · 03-01-2015, 09:07 PM

Thanks you all. I am not sure about caliber.

Lostdutch · 03-01-2015, 09:19 PM

How would I find out the year it was manufactured? Also, would it make sense to have this gun restored? I am not looking to sell it, but would not mind getting it to where it could be operational. Regarding caliber, how would I find out about it. The barrel length appears to be 4 inches.

nukem556 · 03-01-2015, 09:48 PM

Don't even think about restoring it. What about it's condition bothers you? Unless there are serious flaws not seen in the pictures, your Luger is actually in very nice condition. Also, what concerns do you have about its functioning?

rhuff · 03-02-2015, 03:24 PM

From what I see in the photos, this luger is in very nice condition for it's age. I, personally, would not entertain a restoration project on this weapon. Perhaps there are flaws that do not show up in the photos.

Ron Wood · 03-02-2015, 03:36 PM

From your photos your family heirloom appears to be a desirable 9mm version...the barrel looks to be shorter and fatter than the more common 7.65mm chambering. A 9mm example is valued about one third more than the smaller caliber. Abandon any thoughts of restoration, you would reduce its value by about 50% and incur the cost of restoration. Congratulations on owning a very collectible rig.

Dwight Gruber · 03-02-2015, 10:01 PM

Manufactured in the 1907-1908 time frame.

--Dwight

03-01-2015, 01:49 PM	#1
Lostdutch User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Help Identifying luger Just received a family heirloom. It is in rough shape and I would like to learn more about it. It is serial number 29421. I has smooth walnut grip and the ideal holster. There is the American Eagle logo and the DWM logo embossed. It has a trigger safety and bottom of barrel states Germany and the serial number. Can anybody tell me what type of Luger this is?

03-01-2015, 04:53 PM	#3
Lostdutch User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Unknown Luger Thanks for the quick reply. I have attached some pics. Hope those help. Attached Thumbnails

03-02-2015, 03:36 PM	#12
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	From your photos your family heirloom appears to be a desirable 9mm version...the barrel looks to be shorter and fatter than the more common 7.65mm chambering. A 9mm example is valued about one third more than the smaller caliber. Abandon any thoughts of restoration, you would reduce its value by about 50% and incur the cost of restoration. Congratulations on owning a very collectible rig. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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03-01-2015, 02:16 PM	#2
Scorpius User Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 31 Thanks: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	pics are always helpful

03-01-2015, 05:04 PM	#4
Lostdutch User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	There is a story behind it, but from doing a little research and thinking this is a commercial gun, not so sure about the accuracy. According to my father in law the gun was issued by the Army to his grandfather's brother during WW I. Any chance that can be true?

03-01-2015, 06:19 PM	#6
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	You have an intriguing and valuable combination. The ideal holster and corresponding grips are particularly collectable. The finish appears original, but better photos would confirm this. A very nice inheritance, despite the "roughness"!

03-01-2015, 07:30 PM	#7
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	9mm cal. or .30? dju

03-01-2015, 09:07 PM	#8
Lostdutch User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks you all. I am not sure about caliber.

03-01-2015, 09:19 PM	#9
Lostdutch User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	How would I find out the year it was manufactured? Also, would it make sense to have this gun restored? I am not looking to sell it, but would not mind getting it to where it could be operational. Regarding caliber, how would I find out about it. The barrel length appears to be 4 inches.

03-01-2015, 09:48 PM	#10
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	Don't even think about restoring it. What about it's condition bothers you? Unless there are serious flaws not seen in the pictures, your Luger is actually in very nice condition. Also, what concerns do you have about its functioning?

03-02-2015, 03:24 PM	#11
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	From what I see in the photos, this luger is in very nice condition for it's age. I, personally, would not entertain a restoration project on this weapon. Perhaps there are flaws that do not show up in the photos.

03-02-2015, 10:01 PM	#13
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Manufactured in the 1907-1908 time frame. --Dwight