Thanks for ALL replies on the "Mad Russian"

Bob in AZ · 05-06-2002, 09:58 PM

To ALL,

Hope I didn't come off sounding like a "know it all". I'm still learning every day. I just wanted to make everyone aware that there really seem to be a loading problem with some of this Russian 9mm ammo, Brown Bear for one. In the past I have heard simular reports on the Wolf ammo, but dismiss them not knowing all the details. I guess when you actually see it for yourself is when you really take notice.

I always liked shooting the Russian Wolf 9mm 115gr. Never had a problem with it, but now I'm spook about shooting it too. Guess I better just stick with known quality 9mm ammo for my future shooting of Lugers and P-38s too. (can't forget those P-38s, right Orv and GT)

Again, I thank you ALL for the replies. I hope everyone had a chance to learn something from this experience. Don't be afraid to get your guns out and shoot'em. Just remember to ALWAYS wear good shooting glasses. I love my guns and enjoy shooting them very much. It's just a way of life for me.

Be safe and have fun.

Sincerely Bob

AGE · 05-07-2002, 12:01 AM

Bob,

I've been shooting the Russian Wolf ammo too, but why bother when you can get Winchester 9mm in 100 round boxes at Walmart for $10.95 (even cheaper than Wolf)? I'll use up my Wolf ammo in my S&W 3914 and forget the Russian stuff in view of the problems you folks have described.

AGE

Marvin · 05-07-2002, 08:01 AM

Bob,

I have read the previous posting on the problem you had with the Russian ammo. I shoot the Wolf ammo in my AK-47, but that is about as far as it goes, as I don't trust anyting the Russians do or make. They are still an enemy to me, but that is another story.

I don't feel they have the type quality control that is needed to make good ammo. For the most part, it is probably good, but it only takes a few bad ones before someone can get hurt.

I appreciate the infromation you presented and the photo of the casing! I feel the cartridge may have been overloaded myself.

Marvin

AMMOMAN

05-08-2002, 08:28 AM

The best quote that I recall on the Russian system, was the worker who said, "We pretend to work and the government pretends to pay us".

05-06-2002, 09:58 PM	#1
Bob in AZ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for ALL replies on the "Mad Russian" To ALL, Hope I didn't come off sounding like a "know it all". I'm still learning every day. I just wanted to make everyone aware that there really seem to be a loading problem with some of this Russian 9mm ammo, Brown Bear for one. In the past I have heard simular reports on the Wolf ammo, but dismiss them not knowing all the details. I guess when you actually see it for yourself is when you really take notice. I always liked shooting the Russian Wolf 9mm 115gr. Never had a problem with it, but now I'm spook about shooting it too. Guess I better just stick with known quality 9mm ammo for my future shooting of Lugers and P-38s too. (can't forget those P-38s, right Orv and GT) Again, I thank you ALL for the replies. I hope everyone had a chance to learn something from this experience. Don't be afraid to get your guns out and shoot'em. Just remember to ALWAYS wear good shooting glasses. I love my guns and enjoy shooting them very much. It's just a way of life for me. Be safe and have fun. Sincerely Bob

05-07-2002, 12:01 AM	#2
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Thanks for ALL replies on the "Mad Russian" Bob, I've been shooting the Russian Wolf ammo too, but why bother when you can get Winchester 9mm in 100 round boxes at Walmart for $10.95 (even cheaper than Wolf)? I'll use up my Wolf ammo in my S&W 3914 and forget the Russian stuff in view of the problems you folks have described. AGE

05-07-2002, 08:01 AM	#3
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Thanks for ALL replies on the "Mad Russian" Bob, I have read the previous posting on the problem you had with the Russian ammo. I shoot the Wolf ammo in my AK-47, but that is about as far as it goes, as I don't trust anyting the Russians do or make. They are still an enemy to me, but that is another story. I don't feel they have the type quality control that is needed to make good ammo. For the most part, it is probably good, but it only takes a few bad ones before someone can get hurt. I appreciate the infromation you presented and the photo of the casing! I feel the cartridge may have been overloaded myself. Marvin AMMOMAN

05-08-2002, 08:28 AM	#4
Tom Heller Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Russian workers The best quote that I recall on the Russian system, was the worker who said, "We pretend to work and the government pretends to pay us".

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