stock fitting

[Roadster 02]

What is the usual kind of "fitting" that has to be done to make a repro stock fit on a Luger? Filing, milling, bending???? Can it be done without extensive machining tools? Thanks

[DonVoigt]

Filing, and yes-one can do it by hand.
That does not mean every stock will fit every luger, some just won't- others will flop around.

[wlyon]

I have a Navy and an Artillery repro stock. They both fit perfectly with no work. I have had others that required filing. Use caution file and test frequently. I like to use lamp black to see where to remove metal. It is not rocket science but precede slowly. Bill

[LU1900]

Originally Posted by wlyon

I have a Navy and an Artillery repro stock. They both fit perfectly with no work. I have had others that required filing. Use caution file and test frequently. I like to use lamp black to see where to remove metal. It is not rocket science but precede slowly. Bill

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Exactely same , go slowly too !

[mrerick]

I use Prussian Blue to dye the surface of metal and determine what has to be removed, as well as how much has already been removed.

It can help you see the exact points that are interfering.

[Ron Wood]

It hasn't been said and I am sure it is obvious to everyone...but out of an abundance of caution I am going to say it anyway...remove metal only from the stock iron, don't mess with the lug on the gun.

I use a riffler file to remove metal on the bottom of the channel in the stock iron. The curve and narrow profile of the riffler works great and it is a lot easier to control than a dremel tool.
Ron

[G.T.]

My only experience with fitting repro stocks came all at once when a friend bought three bargain Sarco Arty rigs and he was so happy that I almost didn't have the heart to inform him, the battle was just beginning?
Of course, none fit anything, and all fit different.... And as my friend felt he did his part on the purchase, it was my job, by default, to fit them up proper? You've all heard the phrase, "I don't have a dog in this fight!" Well, sometimes your dog is tossed into the fight, and it's up to you to get him out... Soooo, with a bunch of stocks and Lugers under my arms, off we go to the work shop to spring this on the busy little elves... First, you need to see how far it goes on, DO NOT try to force it, it will lock up tight as hell and will not come apart! I left the stock on the iron as you can tap the rear of the stock to make it easier to disengage from the stock lug.. when you find the sticky area, you need a marker dye on the stock iron slot, to see where it is binding… Or if some areas are just too thick to fit into the stock lug.. Ron has it right when metal removal is needed riffler files are almost the only way to relieve the stock iron. Go slow, test often, and force never! The best tool that I used for metal removal was a curved piece of spring steel with an adhesive diamond tape stick on surface, to attack the flat part of the stock iron channel, stopping when I could finally cam the iron on with the lever in a snug final fit. Approx. 3 hours per set... I was rewarded with three varying non-interchangeable fits, in three degrees of tightness!
Now the moral of the story, is to first, not have collector friends that purchase cheap stuff! Almost as important, is to steer them to a better purchase to start with, (Odin repro stocks are nearly the same quality as original!) Odin stocks are in the $200.00 plus range when you can find them, but they seem to fit nicely in almost every circumstance.. I don't know about the CMR offerings, and they my well be on par with the better repros, but the cheap stuff is definitely a work from hell in progress!!! Best to all, til….lat'r…..GT ….

[John Sabato]

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

I am going to say it anyway...remove metal only from the stock iron, don't mess with the lug on the gun.

Ron

Yes, THAT! Thanks Ron for educating the un-informed... and reminding those of us that should know better!

[DavidJayUden]

I'm envious of all you guys and gals with too tight of a stock which needs to be relieved. I have an IMA rig that according to LugerDoc, can only be correctly fitted after welding...
dju

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

I'm envious of all you guys and gals with too tight of a stock which needs to be relieved. I have an IMA rig that according to LugerDoc, can only be correctly fitted after welding...
dju

David,
If it will go "on" you can build up the slot with epoxy and then work it down.
Use liberal release agent on the lug, and only place a small amount of epoxy in the "top" of the groove and work down.

I expect it will tighten up with just an application or two.

Just don't do too large an area at a time and get the two "stuck" together.

[George Anderson]

In my opinion the only repro stocks that are worth a darn are thoase made or marketed by Odin International. I've never seen one that didn't fit correctly right out of the box.

[DavidJayUden]

Thanks, I may have to get it out and have a look. Another part of the problem is that at 63 my eyes prefer those sights to be out a ways, not on the end of my nose.
dju

[Diver6106]

NOW THIS is a stock attachment that needs work...

[Ron Wood]

Originally Posted by Diver6106

NOW THIS is a stock attachment that needs work...

You have a gift for understatement!