Desperate Housewives Sitcom

Big Norm · 01-11-2005, 01:15 PM

While watching TV last night, I saw a little snippet of the next episode of the sitcom 'Desperate Housewives'. The snippet was fast but I am sure that I saw one of these women being shown how to shoot a Luger. I am not sure that this will qualify as a movie or a comment by our resident movie critic, Thor

, , but past movies on TV generally have generated much discussion on this forum, if they involve Lugers.
Big Norm

Vlim · 01-11-2005, 03:49 PM

Hi,

If you get a change check out Roman Polanski's recent 'The Pianist'. It shows the use of a Luger in a rather bad setting, but it makes you kinda think about some darker parts of it's history.

Steve Richards · 01-11-2005, 09:26 PM

Big Norm,

I thought the same thing. But it was shown so fast that I was not sure.

Steve

minigun · 01-12-2005, 01:21 AM

Hot women, really stupid show. It's for those liberal idiotic "socker mom's" out there.

Big Norm · 01-12-2005, 03:38 AM

Steve,
you are right, the snipet was fast and I was half way to the refrigerator for adult refreshments when it came on the tube. But I thought that I caught the flash of a Luger. I could be wrong. I promise to never be wrong again.

Minigun,
yah, hot women and a stupid sitcom. But nobody says that we are not supposed to like hot women. Its also a good lead in to 'Boston Legal' which I really find funny. Some hot women there too, but one guy there (Dennis Crains favorite lawyer) has a dead pan facial expression that just cracks me up.
Big Norm

Big Norm · 01-12-2005, 02:30 PM

Mr. G.Van Vlimmeren,
I received your email but I am not certain if my reply was returned to you properly. Your being from another country/continent probably would not make you aware of American television entertainment programs.

Unfortuately, what you say is true. I did not see the movie that you suggested but, since it won many awards, maybe I missed an interesting movie.

I think that the Lugerforum has a list of American movies that have the Luger pistol in them. The list contains a star rating system that signifies how much the movie displays the Luger pistol and not the acting, message or quality of the script. This list was maintained by Thor and contains some movies that are not as sad as the one that you suggested.

The TV show that I suggested is a light, comedy, soap opera about four modern American housewives in a modern subdivision and has nothing to do with war. The short advertisement part that I saw is where a man (possibly an undercover policeman) takes his girl friend to a shooting range to just shoot at some targets. This TV show is very popular in America and really has very little to do with the shooting of people. To tell the truth, since this was an advertisement for the show, it caught me off guard and I could not tell if the gun used was really a Luger. I normally don't pay much attention to advertisements. That is when I get something out of the refrigerator in preparation for the real entertainment.

Big Norm

Vlim · 01-13-2005, 11:34 AM

Hi Norm,

Over here, we get swamped by US-made shows. The Netherlands are one of only a few countries where shows are aired in their untranslated versions with subtitles added. Mainly because most Dutch can understand English pretty well and also because we completely dislike translated versions like the Germans and French get (kinda like watching 'Friends' in Mexican I guess).

We get a lot of US sitcoms over here, just haven't heard of that one yet. I agree that it's quite a weird setting in which to find a Luger. I must say I got hooked on Thor's list and try to spot and remember every Luger appearance I see on TV.

Jack Lawman · 01-13-2005, 12:43 PM

That's what I love about you guys...

You watch "Desperate Housewives" and press your nose against the T.V. looking for a luger

.

But at least now I have a plausible excuse for the Mrs. when I start to go blind

.

Cheers

,

Jack

Thor · 01-13-2005, 01:24 PM

STrider and others have helped with this listing, I dont think it is up to date.
LUGERS IN MOVIES

All Quiet on the Western Front (1931 version)
Anatomy of a Murder ***
Austin Powers--Man of Mystery
Band of Brothers **
Battleground
Blues Brothers
Charade ***
Cobb
Cross of Iron**
Days of Glory
The Deadly Tower
Desert Rats *
The Detective
The English Patient
Escape from Sorbibor
Fatherland
The First Deadly Sin
For Your Eyes Only
Gorky Park ***
The Great Escape
The Great Race
Guns of Navarone
HellÃ¢??s Angels
The Heroes of Telemark
HornetÃ¢??s Nest
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade ***
KellyÃ¢??s Heroes
The Land that Time Forgot
The Maltese Falcon
Marines, LetÃ¢??s Go ***
Night of the Fox ***
The Notorious Landlady ***
Of Mice and Men
Mother Night
Public Enemy No. One
Rogue Male
SchindlerÃ¢??s List ***
Sergeant York ***
Shadow of the Vampire **
Shining Through
Shoot at the Devil***
Slaughterhouse Five
Son of Frankenstein
Stalingrad
Tales of the Gun--The Luger (History Channel) ***
Teenagers from Outer Space**
Tobruk ***
Triple Cross
Twilight Zone--The Movie ***
The Valachi Papers
Von RyanÃ¢??s Express ***
Wall Street ***
Where Eagles Dare ***
***-------------High Luger presence, such as integral to plot, closeups, much footage, or good scene with Luger, etc.
**---------------Minor Luger presence
*-----------------Mere hint of Luger, such as brief glimpse in battlefield, wearing of P-08 holster, etc.
No astericks---Not yet rated

Edward Tinker · 01-13-2005, 02:24 PM

Not a movie, but was watching Antique Road Show the other day and in the opening credits, showed a guy with a luger being cocked back, one of those plastic ties put in it. I was pleased, as that meant they were showing it as a collectable, and not as a "weapon"....

Ed

Ida-Alp · 01-13-2005, 08:42 PM

I thot it was a P38. Al

Edward Tinker · 01-13-2005, 08:57 PM

The one I saw was definately a P08, they showed it and the guy told the man who brought it in, "pull the toggle back". No other info on it, just a quick show of it,

Ed

Ida-Alp · 01-15-2005, 10:21 AM

Looks like I need new glasses, a hearing aid and some more books...Al

Big Norm · 01-17-2005, 03:00 AM

Al,
well, it wasn't a P-38. But it is what we called a pimp gun on the old forum. Thats what General Patton called a gun with white plastic grips. He felt that ivory grips on his pistols to be more classy though. I am a collector so I still think that any Luger with anything but original grips is a pimp Luger.

Did you hear that lame excuse they gave for the white grips? Some German officers in WW11 ordered their Lugers with white grips. BS!! The producers of the show where too cheap to get a good Luger with real grips.

But I was wrong too. I thought that the women involved was the brunet and not the red head. Good shooting though. They shot the guys MIDDLE toe off. Right down the center.

Big Norm

Lugerdoc · 01-17-2005, 10:39 AM

BN, You can tell that red headed Brie is a real expert, knowing that mother of pearl grips only came on the officer's model luger. This TV coverage ought to bring out a bunch of this variation at up coming shows. TH

Dwight Gruber · 01-17-2005, 01:52 PM

Actually it was the idiot boyfriend who volunteered the mother-of-pearl/officer connection.

I think the produces/writers knew exactly what they were doing here. In the world of Hollywood prop houses it would be easy to rent a gun with the proper grips (a 'special' gun with pearl grips might actually cost more). It struck me that someone involved with the production knew enough about Lugers to play the pearl handles for maximum cheeziness, with the hope that a viewer who shared the knowledge would get an additonal laugh from the "in" joke.

--Dwight

fg42 · 01-17-2005, 03:49 PM

Thor A movie that needs to be added to your list is "Never So Few". It is one of my favorite WWII movies. It is set in the CBI (China Burma India) theater. Steve McQeen carries a luger in a tanker style chest holster. It would rate 3 stars on your luger visability scale and 5(of 5 possible) as a movie. Thanks Bob Benson Ps Thanksfor the spell check!!!!!!!!

Strider · 01-17-2005, 03:51 PM

Did any of you get to see CSI on Thursday night? There was a Luger shown on that show that a vet had. What was interesting was that before the investigatiors went to talk to the vet they had found a 9mm casing. Nothing exciting about that but when they were looking at the stamp on it to check the manufacturer it grabbed my atttention. Stamped on it real nice and pretty were the letters DWM. I had a feeling they would be using a Luger as the vets weapon. I guess we can add this show to the list.

Sid.

lugerholsterrepair · 01-18-2005, 01:04 AM

Sid, True about the mention on CSI but did you notice the glaring error? The so called expert tech said this casing was from WW2! I don't think so...Jerry Burney

Strider · 01-18-2005, 03:15 PM

Hi Jerry,
I did notice that. I even told the wife that she was wrong and that the casing was a lot older than that. It would be nice to get a picture of that casing to show here.
Sid.

01-11-2005, 01:15 PM	#1
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Desperate Housewives Sitcom While watching TV last night, I saw a little snippet of the next episode of the sitcom 'Desperate Housewives'. The snippet was fast but I am sure that I saw one of these women being shown how to shoot a Luger. I am not sure that this will qualify as a movie or a comment by our resident movie critic, Thor , , but past movies on TV generally have generated much discussion on this forum, if they involve Lugers. Big Norm

01-12-2005, 02:30 PM	#6
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Mr. G.Van Vlimmeren, I received your email but I am not certain if my reply was returned to you properly. Your being from another country/continent probably would not make you aware of American television entertainment programs. Unfortuately, what you say is true. I did not see the movie that you suggested but, since it won many awards, maybe I missed an interesting movie. I think that the Lugerforum has a list of American movies that have the Luger pistol in them. The list contains a star rating system that signifies how much the movie displays the Luger pistol and not the acting, message or quality of the script. This list was maintained by Thor and contains some movies that are not as sad as the one that you suggested. The TV show that I suggested is a light, comedy, soap opera about four modern American housewives in a modern subdivision and has nothing to do with war. The short advertisement part that I saw is where a man (possibly an undercover policeman) takes his girl friend to a shooting range to just shoot at some targets. This TV show is very popular in America and really has very little to do with the shooting of people. To tell the truth, since this was an advertisement for the show, it caught me off guard and I could not tell if the gun used was really a Luger. I normally don't pay much attention to advertisements. That is when I get something out of the refrigerator in preparation for the real entertainment. Big Norm Last edited by Big Norm; 01-12-2005 at 02:50 PM.

01-13-2005, 01:24 PM	#9
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	STrider and others have helped with this listing, I dont think it is up to date. LUGERS IN MOVIES All Quiet on the Western Front (1931 version) Anatomy of a Murder * Austin Powers--Man of Mystery Band of Brothers Battleground Blues Brothers Charade * Cobb Cross of Iron Days of Glory The Deadly Tower Desert Rats * The Detective The English Patient Escape from Sorbibor Fatherland The First Deadly Sin For Your Eyes Only Gorky Park * The Great Escape The Great Race Guns of Navarone HellÃ¢??s Angels The Heroes of Telemark HornetÃ¢??s Nest Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade * KellyÃ¢??s Heroes The Land that Time Forgot The Maltese Falcon Marines, LetÃ¢??s Go * Night of the Fox * The Notorious Landlady * Of Mice and Men Mother Night Public Enemy No. One Rogue Male SchindlerÃ¢??s List * Sergeant York * Shadow of the Vampire Shining Through Shoot at the Devil* Slaughterhouse Five Son of Frankenstein Stalingrad Tales of the Gun--The Luger (History Channel) * Teenagers from Outer Space Tobruk * Triple Cross Twilight Zone--The Movie * The Valachi Papers Von RyanÃ¢??s Express * Wall Street * Where Eagles Dare * *-------------High Luger presence, such as integral to plot, closeups, much footage, or good scene with Luger, etc. ---------------Minor Luger presence *-----------------Mere hint of Luger, such as brief glimpse in battlefield, wearing of P-08 holster, etc. No astericks---Not yet rated __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

01-13-2005, 02:24 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,936 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,534 Times in 2,094 Posts	Not a movie, but was watching Antique Road Show the other day and in the opening credits, showed a guy with a luger being cocked back, one of those plastic ties put in it. I was pleased, as that meant they were showing it as a collectable, and not as a "weapon".... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-13-2005, 08:57 PM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,936 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,534 Times in 2,094 Posts	The one I saw was definately a P08, they showed it and the guy told the man who brought it in, "pull the toggle back". No other info on it, just a quick show of it, Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-11-2005, 03:49 PM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi, If you get a change check out Roman Polanski's recent 'The Pianist'. It shows the use of a Luger in a rather bad setting, but it makes you kinda think about some darker parts of it's history.

01-11-2005, 09:26 PM	#3
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Big Norm, I thought the same thing. But it was shown so fast that I was not sure. Steve

01-12-2005, 01:21 AM	#4
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Hot women, really stupid show. It's for those liberal idiotic "socker mom's" out there.

01-12-2005, 03:38 AM	#5
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Steve, you are right, the snipet was fast and I was half way to the refrigerator for adult refreshments when it came on the tube. But I thought that I caught the flash of a Luger. I could be wrong. I promise to never be wrong again. Minigun, yah, hot women and a stupid sitcom. But nobody says that we are not supposed to like hot women. Its also a good lead in to 'Boston Legal' which I really find funny. Some hot women there too, but one guy there (Dennis Crains favorite lawyer) has a dead pan facial expression that just cracks me up. Big Norm

01-13-2005, 11:34 AM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi Norm, Over here, we get swamped by US-made shows. The Netherlands are one of only a few countries where shows are aired in their untranslated versions with subtitles added. Mainly because most Dutch can understand English pretty well and also because we completely dislike translated versions like the Germans and French get (kinda like watching 'Friends' in Mexican I guess). We get a lot of US sitcoms over here, just haven't heard of that one yet. I agree that it's quite a weird setting in which to find a Luger. I must say I got hooked on Thor's list and try to spot and remember every Luger appearance I see on TV.

01-13-2005, 12:43 PM	#8
Jack Lawman User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Near NYC Posts: 428 Thanks: 30 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts	That's what I love about you guys... You watch "Desperate Housewives" and press your nose against the T.V. looking for a luger . But at least now I have a plausible excuse for the Mrs. when I start to go blind . Cheers , Jack

01-13-2005, 08:42 PM	#11
Ida-Alp Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Nampa ID Posts: 116 Thanks: 81 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	I thot it was a P38. Al

01-15-2005, 10:21 AM	#13
Ida-Alp Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Nampa ID Posts: 116 Thanks: 81 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Looks like I need new glasses, a hearing aid and some more books...Al

01-17-2005, 03:00 AM	#14
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Al, well, it wasn't a P-38. But it is what we called a pimp gun on the old forum. Thats what General Patton called a gun with white plastic grips. He felt that ivory grips on his pistols to be more classy though. I am a collector so I still think that any Luger with anything but original grips is a pimp Luger. Did you hear that lame excuse they gave for the white grips? Some German officers in WW11 ordered their Lugers with white grips. BS!! The producers of the show where too cheap to get a good Luger with real grips. But I was wrong too. I thought that the women involved was the brunet and not the red head. Good shooting though. They shot the guys MIDDLE toe off. Right down the center. Big Norm

01-17-2005, 10:39 AM	#15
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	BN, You can tell that red headed Brie is a real expert, knowing that mother of pearl grips only came on the officer's model luger. This TV coverage ought to bring out a bunch of this variation at up coming shows. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

01-17-2005, 01:52 PM	#16
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Actually it was the idiot boyfriend who volunteered the mother-of-pearl/officer connection. I think the produces/writers knew exactly what they were doing here. In the world of Hollywood prop houses it would be easy to rent a gun with the proper grips (a 'special' gun with pearl grips might actually cost more). It struck me that someone involved with the production knew enough about Lugers to play the pearl handles for maximum cheeziness, with the hope that a viewer who shared the knowledge would get an additonal laugh from the "in" joke. --Dwight

01-17-2005, 03:49 PM	#17
fg42 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thor A movie that needs to be added to your list is "Never So Few". It is one of my favorite WWII movies. It is set in the CBI (China Burma India) theater. Steve McQeen carries a luger in a tanker style chest holster. It would rate 3 stars on your luger visability scale and 5(of 5 possible) as a movie. Thanks Bob Benson Ps Thanksfor the spell check!!!!!!!!

01-17-2005, 03:51 PM	#18
Strider User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 256 Thanks: 26 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Did any of you get to see CSI on Thursday night? There was a Luger shown on that show that a vet had. What was interesting was that before the investigatiors went to talk to the vet they had found a 9mm casing. Nothing exciting about that but when they were looking at the stamp on it to check the manufacturer it grabbed my atttention. Stamped on it real nice and pretty were the letters DWM. I had a feeling they would be using a Luger as the vets weapon. I guess we can add this show to the list. Sid. __________________ Sid. Patience is a bitter plant, but it has sweet fruit. ~German Proverb If it is made before 1930 ..........It is a prototype.

01-18-2005, 01:04 AM	#19
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Sid, True about the mention on CSI but did you notice the glaring error? The so called expert tech said this casing was from WW2! I don't think so...Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-18-2005, 03:15 PM	#20
Strider User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 256 Thanks: 26 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Jerry, I did notice that. I even told the wife that she was wrong and that the casing was a lot older than that. It would be nice to get a picture of that casing to show here. Sid. __________________ Sid. Patience is a bitter plant, but it has sweet fruit. ~German Proverb If it is made before 1930 ..........It is a prototype.